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I'm calling FUD. There's a lot of press out there talking about what rough shape the economy is in. It makes for good copy, and it sells ads. But ultimately,

I'm calling FUD. There's a lot of press out there talking about what rough shape the economy is in. It makes for good copy, and it sells ads. But ultimately, I think we're just in a correction. Iraq: We've got to stop spending money on it period. I agree. It's just silly and artificially inflating oil prices. Dollar devaluation: It's actually a good thing for the US economy and the US consumer, but it's going to cause the rest of the world to suffer a bit. A weaker dollar means that US goods will be cheaper relative to foreign imports. This will be good for the US tourism and manufacturing sectors. Cheaper US products, mean that more people will buy them over seas. Other countries are going to have a harder time selling to the US, because their products just went up 30% in price because of the exchange rate. The dollar is being devalued on purpose in my opinion. It's the only way to correct the trade deficit. Expensive Oil: This is going to make us tighten our belts, and it will spur growth in other energy sectors aside from fossil fuels, which in the long run only makes sense from a geo-petro-political perspective and a environmental perspective. I'd love for oil to be at $200 or $300 a barrel. There'd be a lot more economic incentive for electric cars and nuclear power plants. Short term pains, long term gains. US schools: I don't see tons of US students going to Europe, China or India to study. I still see many students trying to get in to US schools, however. And, it's not so much the quality of education available, it's that pretty much anyone can go to any school (aside from the 20-30 highly selective schools). Education in other countries is heavily subsidized, and it's hard for people to go back to school. In many countries, you're told what schools you can attend, and what majors you are able to take. You don't have the flexibility that we have here. It's one of the essential strengths of the US economy. I've been an ER nurse for 14 years, and I'm going back to school for software engineering. I've attended the University of Maryland online while moving to 2 different states and 4 different cities. I haven't heard of any other country that has that type of educational flexibility. I work with a number of nurses that use to be engineers, or flight attendants, or ministers. The average US worker has 7 different careers in their lifetime. You simply don't have that fluidity in other countries. It's that fluidity of labor markets that gives the US a big part of it's edge in the international market. Foreign investment: If a US company invests in a manufacturing plant in India, and the Indian manufacturing plant succeeds, where do the profits end up? On the balance sheet of the US company. Foreign competition from India/China: I have a friend who's job is to ship servers to India/China. The bureaucracy is so convoluted, it takes them 2-6 months to get a server or a SAN through customs. Many other countries aren't used to working on Internet time. I have another friend who worked for Big Internet Co. here in the valley, and he's planning to leave to go back to India in the next 2-3 years. He says that salaries are pretty much at a parity, when you compare the costs of living. In other words: outsourcing is no longer cheap labor, it's just finding available engineers. US as a bad place to invest: Okay, when you buy a stock, say GOOG. Do you want to buy your shares of GOOG stock when the price is at $800 a share and hold it, or do you want to buy those shares when it was at $87 a share? You want to buy it at $87 a share because then the price will appreciate. The idea is to buy low and sell high. Too many people buy when there's hubris and giddiness in the press (e.g. buy a house in 2006 or Internet stock in 1999) and sell when there's panic (e.g. sell a house today or tech stocks in 2001). Phil is falling in the same mistake. He's encouraging people to sell their US stock when it's low. This is a great time to invest in the US. It's a great time to be here. It's a great time to buy a house, if you can afford it. Why? Because things are going to appreciate after all this FUD dissipates. Finally: Compare the number of posts on Hacker News and elsewhere that say: "How do I move to India/China/Europe to start my startup" vs "How do I move to the US to start my startup"?

kingkongrevenge 19y ago
> Dollar devaluation: It's actually a good thing for the US economy and the US consumer I agree with everything but this claim about the falling dollar as a benefit. The falling dollar is a way to default on international debts. It is also outright theft from those who have saved in dollars. This idea that a falling currency means boosted exports is empirically challenged. If you measure in terms of the devalued currency, then yes, more money is received. But it's money that is worth less, so the change is essentially meaningless. In terms of actual physical exports, with a couple exceptions, falling currencies have not boosted manufactured exports in industrial economies. The more obvious historical correlation is a trade surplus and a strong currency. A falling dollar will probably boost the share of existing commodity production that is exported more than it will stimulate new manufacturing. That is a bad thing in that it basically means Americans are finding themselves outbid on their own crops. It means people eating less meat because they can't afford it anymore.
- iamelgringo 19y ago
  * The falling dollar is a way to default on international debts. * Isn't that what third world countries have been doing for decades? :) I hadn't really thought of the increase in export volumes would essentially be zero sum because of the fall in value. Good point. I don't know. I've been of the impression that the US dollar has been overvalued for quite some time, however. You can't keep running the trade deficit's that we've been running for decades, and expect the dollar to stay strong. Essentially, what I think is happening, is that the whole world has been running up the prices on the Dollar for decades by using the Dollar as a benchmark and holding currency. And, now the market is correcting itself, and buying the Euro instead. The Dollar has never really had a decent competitor until the advent of the Euro. While I certainly don't think that it's going to be good for us in the short term, I do think that it's going to knock some financial sense into us. We've been living on credit cards for far too long as a country, and now we're going to have to pay off the credit card bills. I'm okay with that.

kingkongrevenge 19y ago

> Dollar devaluation: It's actually a good thing for the US economy and the US consumer I agree with everything but this claim about the falling dollar as a benefit. The falling dollar is a way to default on international debts. It is also outright theft from those who have saved in dollars. This idea that a falling currency means boosted exports is empirically challenged. If you measure in terms of the devalued currency, then yes, more money is received. But it's money that is worth less, so the change is essentially meaningless. In terms of actual physical exports, with a couple exceptions, falling currencies have not boosted manufactured exports in industrial economies. The more obvious historical correlation is a trade surplus and a strong currency. A falling dollar will probably boost the share of existing commodity production that is exported more than it will stimulate new manufacturing. That is a bad thing in that it basically means Americans are finding themselves outbid on their own crops. It means people eating less meat because they can't afford it anymore.

iamelgringo 19y ago
* The falling dollar is a way to default on international debts. * Isn't that what third world countries have been doing for decades? :) I hadn't really thought of the increase in export volumes would essentially be zero sum because of the fall in value. Good point. I don't know. I've been of the impression that the US dollar has been overvalued for quite some time, however. You can't keep running the trade deficit's that we've been running for decades, and expect the dollar to stay strong. Essentially, what I think is happening, is that the whole world has been running up the prices on the Dollar for decades by using the Dollar as a benchmark and holding currency. And, now the market is correcting itself, and buying the Euro instead. The Dollar has never really had a decent competitor until the advent of the Euro. While I certainly don't think that it's going to be good for us in the short term, I do think that it's going to knock some financial sense into us. We've been living on credit cards for far too long as a country, and now we're going to have to pay off the credit card bills. I'm okay with that.