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> they're giving you a remanufactured iPhone using reused internal parts like screws or shielding And, unless something changed recently, batteries. My iPhone

> they're giving you a remanufactured iPhone using reused internal parts like screws or shielding And, unless something changed recently, batteries. My iPhone 5 had a faulty charging socket, which got worse. A month after unboxing, it would no longer charge at all, so I handed it in for repair. Got back a unit with half the battery life and a faulty charging socket. I gave it to a good GSoC student across the world after a second unsuccessful trip to service

madeofpalk 9y ago
Consumable parts are and have never been reused. Just sounds like you had a faulty part, rather than a reused one.
- throwaway613834 9y ago
  > Consumable parts are and have never been reused Are phone parts "consumable"? I thought "consumable" meant refers to things that get "used up" like milk, ink, pens, etc., not storage media or LCD screens or the like...
  - digi_owl 9y ago
    Batteries can be consumable after a fashion, as they lose capacity with each charge cycle. The effect can be reduced via certain techniques (depending on the battery chemistry involved), but so far never completely eliminated. Just consider it entropy in action, really.
    - andrewkozak 9y ago
      Is there any way to reclaim the resources in a "used up" battery to reintroduce them to the production chain?
      - Dylan16807 9y ago
        You absolutely can, but it's currently not cost-effective. On the other hand it looks like it's cheap enough that making it mandatory or putting a recycling deposit on batteries would be viable.
        toomuchtodo 9y ago
        Are battery recycling programs near you not feasible? Our local Home Depot and Best Buy stores will take back rechargeable batteries for recycling for free.
        Dylan16807 9y ago
        Do they recycle all of a lithium ion battery?
        ToFundorNot 9y ago
        Very little of the physical (the lithium). However all of the precious materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_batteries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_...). It's not worth it to extract the lithium, monetarily speaking.
- bionoid 9y ago
  > Consumable parts are and have never been reused Can you substantiate that? It's clearly at odds with my experience, neither of my two replacement units had a battery life that even came close to unboxed unit. I just don't buy that every serviced device gets a new battery. (I am in Europe by the way)
icc97 9y ago
I thought the iPhone 5 had a pretty good iFixit score. The Teardown was a 7 out of 10 [0], which is one of the highest scores they've given. [0]: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+5+Teardown/10525 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+5+Teardown/10525

madeofpalk 9y ago

Consumable parts are and have never been reused. Just sounds like you had a faulty part, rather than a reused one.

throwaway613834 9y ago
> Consumable parts are and have never been reused Are phone parts "consumable"? I thought "consumable" meant refers to things that get "used up" like milk, ink, pens, etc., not storage media or LCD screens or the like...
- digi_owl 9y ago
  Batteries can be consumable after a fashion, as they lose capacity with each charge cycle. The effect can be reduced via certain techniques (depending on the battery chemistry involved), but so far never completely eliminated. Just consider it entropy in action, really.
  - andrewkozak 9y ago
    Is there any way to reclaim the resources in a "used up" battery to reintroduce them to the production chain?
    - Dylan16807 9y ago
      You absolutely can, but it's currently not cost-effective. On the other hand it looks like it's cheap enough that making it mandatory or putting a recycling deposit on batteries would be viable.
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        Are battery recycling programs near you not feasible? Our local Home Depot and Best Buy stores will take back rechargeable batteries for recycling for free.
        Dylan16807 9y ago
        Do they recycle all of a lithium ion battery?
        ToFundorNot 9y ago
        Very little of the physical (the lithium). However all of the precious materials (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_batteries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battery_recycling#Lithium_ion_...). It's not worth it to extract the lithium, monetarily speaking.
bionoid 9y ago
> Consumable parts are and have never been reused Can you substantiate that? It's clearly at odds with my experience, neither of my two replacement units had a battery life that even came close to unboxed unit. I just don't buy that every serviced device gets a new battery. (I am in Europe by the way)

icc97 9y ago

I thought the iPhone 5 had a pretty good iFixit score. The Teardown was a 7 out of 10 [0], which is one of the highest scores they've given. [0]: https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+5+Teardown/10525 https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iPhone+5+Teardown/10525