Instead of frameworks, we need better and richer platforms with better and richer libraries, support for a variety of good languages, etc. Seems like this is w

Instead of frameworks, we need better and richer platforms with better and richer libraries, support for a variety of good languages, etc. Seems like this is what .NET and the JVM are trying to achieve. MS is putting up a lot of different languages (C#, VB, IronPython, IronRuby, etc) and the JVM is experiencing somewhat of a rebirth with languages like clojure and scala (not to mention good ol' boring java).