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There's a map in the albums showing where all the pictures were taken. Also IOS creates memories(machine generated albums) with location names. You'll have t

by adrr 9y ago

There's a map in the albums showing where all the pictures were taken. Also IOS creates memories(machine generated albums) with location names. You'll have to be pretty naive to think it wasn't storing location.

untog 9y ago
> You'll have to be pretty naive to think it wasn't storing location. I think you'll have to be pretty naive to assume that users inherently realise that "photos have location attached" automatically leads to "third party app can read location in these photos" and can lead to "build a profile of you based on your photo locations". It's not that people can't put these things together, it's that they don't ever really think about it. When you download a photo editing app you're thinking about editing a photo, not about the metadata you might be leaking in doing so.
- chii 9y ago
  exactly - users don't use logical deduction to work out what information an app is capable of inferring. If i didn't give the app permission/information, it stands to reason that said app shouldn't be able to infer, or deduce it. If the app is able to do so, then they ought to be legally obligated to disclose this fact.
eradicatethots 9y ago
Do you hate people or something? Most people probably would not realize this
s73ver_ 9y ago
But those are both Apple apps. I wouldn't expect that, just because I gave access to FB or Twitter to see my photos, that they'd get the location of them too.
- oddlyaromatic 9y ago
  Interesting. I would have thought always that yes, if I'm moving an image around, its metadata goes with it unless I've specifically taken steps to strip it. I guess we've all had different introductions to this stuff.
  - Skunkleton 9y ago
    Coincidentally, I have asked some non-technical people exactly this question. All of the people I asked didn't even understand that there was anything other than "my picture" in an image file. I would guess that if you pressed a lay-person to explain how Apple shows a map of where your photos were taken, they would guess that the information was stored separately.
hobarrera 9y ago
That doesn't really make it evident that letting an app access a photo lets it access the photos location. You and I both understand that that's metadata in the file, but non-tech users don't know that much -- they might simply have never though about it enough at all.

by adrr 9y ago

untog 9y ago

> You'll have to be pretty naive to think it wasn't storing location. I think you'll have to be pretty naive to assume that users inherently realise that "photos have location attached" automatically leads to "third party app can read location in these photos" and can lead to "build a profile of you based on your photo locations". It's not that people can't put these things together, it's that they don't ever really think about it. When you download a photo editing app you're thinking about editing a photo, not about the metadata you might be leaking in doing so.

chii 9y ago
exactly - users don't use logical deduction to work out what information an app is capable of inferring. If i didn't give the app permission/information, it stands to reason that said app shouldn't be able to infer, or deduce it. If the app is able to do so, then they ought to be legally obligated to disclose this fact.

eradicatethots 9y ago

Do you hate people or something? Most people probably would not realize this

s73ver_ 9y ago

But those are both Apple apps. I wouldn't expect that, just because I gave access to FB or Twitter to see my photos, that they'd get the location of them too.

oddlyaromatic 9y ago
Interesting. I would have thought always that yes, if I'm moving an image around, its metadata goes with it unless I've specifically taken steps to strip it. I guess we've all had different introductions to this stuff.
- Skunkleton 9y ago
  Coincidentally, I have asked some non-technical people exactly this question. All of the people I asked didn't even understand that there was anything other than "my picture" in an image file. I would guess that if you pressed a lay-person to explain how Apple shows a map of where your photos were taken, they would guess that the information was stored separately.

hobarrera 9y ago

That doesn't really make it evident that letting an app access a photo lets it access the photos location. You and I both understand that that's metadata in the file, but non-tech users don't know that much -- they might simply have never though about it enough at all.