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How did you arrive at the "0.0001%" figure? Of what population is that a percentage? I strongly dislike this kind of waving away an important feature request.

by jwr 9y ago

How did you arrive at the "0.0001%" figure? Of what population is that a percentage? I strongly dislike this kind of waving away an important feature request. These days anybody crossing the border of the USA could be asked to unlock their phone. I'd say that's at least a larger percentage of the "population" (whatever population you meant) than "0.0001%".

MBCook 9y ago
> I strongly dislike this kind of waiving away an important feature request I could easily say I dislike people making up rediculous corner cases and demanding new technology be designed for it and being deployed. Are there any authorization methods on any kind of mainstream devices that provide that capability? I tend to agree that it’s not actually useful and would be incredible hard to implement, all for a case where most people will just give in to avoid harm and forget the option, if it’s even on, exists so they can’t activate it.
- SirZimzim 9y ago
  Are you saying that I shouldn't be able to snap my fingers three times to call 911? What if I'm handcuffed?
giarc 9y ago
The 0.0001% was obviously a facetious figure. Meant to convey the fact that a duress feature whereby you cross your eyes while using FaceID to "alert the mothership" as OP said, is an extreme corner case. As another commentor said, you can't expect Apple (or any manufacturer) to build all these extreme corner cases. If you don't want to unlock your phone at the border, put it in your checked luggage or ship it to your hotel/destination. If you still think that Apple should build something like this because it's important and serves a non zero % of the population... I'd also like Apple to build... 1. FaceID that will tell me when I have something in my teeth 2. FaceID that will tell me when my hair is messy 3. an iPhone that listens to my voice and detect when I might be sick and orders cough syrup 4. an iPhone accelerometer that detects when I am limping and books a physio appointment 5. an iPhone camera that can detect when someone is watching me in the distance 6. an iPhone that will passively listen for gunfire and tell me to seek cover. See how feature requests can get out of control.

by jwr 9y ago

MBCook 9y ago

> I strongly dislike this kind of waiving away an important feature request I could easily say I dislike people making up rediculous corner cases and demanding new technology be designed for it and being deployed. Are there any authorization methods on any kind of mainstream devices that provide that capability? I tend to agree that it’s not actually useful and would be incredible hard to implement, all for a case where most people will just give in to avoid harm and forget the option, if it’s even on, exists so they can’t activate it.

SirZimzim 9y ago
Are you saying that I shouldn't be able to snap my fingers three times to call 911? What if I'm handcuffed?

giarc 9y ago

The 0.0001% was obviously a facetious figure. Meant to convey the fact that a duress feature whereby you cross your eyes while using FaceID to "alert the mothership" as OP said, is an extreme corner case. As another commentor said, you can't expect Apple (or any manufacturer) to build all these extreme corner cases. If you don't want to unlock your phone at the border, put it in your checked luggage or ship it to your hotel/destination. If you still think that Apple should build something like this because it's important and serves a non zero % of the population... I'd also like Apple to build... 1. FaceID that will tell me when I have something in my teeth 2. FaceID that will tell me when my hair is messy 3. an iPhone that listens to my voice and detect when I might be sick and orders cough syrup 4. an iPhone accelerometer that detects when I am limping and books a physio appointment 5. an iPhone camera that can detect when someone is watching me in the distance 6. an iPhone that will passively listen for gunfire and tell me to seek cover. See how feature requests can get out of control.