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Possessing random data is also a crime since it's indistinguishable from encrypted data, and if you can't provide the non-existent keys, your SOL.

mjevans 9y ago
Which is incredibly worrying as that 'random data' could it's self be a one time pad (the passphrase used for something else).
- CyberDildonics 9y ago
  How does that make things worse or change the situation?
  - alain_gilbert 9y ago
    I think I meant to say: You have no idea if a file contains something needed as part of a decryption process, or if the file itself contains encrypted informations. So basically, having a "pad" file incriminate you.
  - samfriedman 9y ago
    Presumably in that the data itself is not criminal, and there could be no viable method to determine whether the data the key decrypts is criminal.
dozzie 9y ago
What's this "my SOL"?
- e12e 9y ago
  [you are/you're] shit out of luck. IE: fucked. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOL http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOL
eternalban 9y ago
It certainly raises red flags, don't you agree? After all, what were you planning to do with those alledged "random" digits? What do you have to hide? You really shouldn't be able to access /dev/urandum until you have been cleared by a reputable Alphabet company. This is for our security and that "obviously" trumps individual rights (whatever that means). Root cause of all this is, of course, "bad thoughts" and "bad information", which IMHO should also be made illegal and only permitted in designated "free and error prone thought" areas and participants monitored by physicians from the Ministry of Error Free Thought.
m-j-fox 9y ago
Oh that gives me an idea. Let's make it so the blob can be decrypted 2 ways. One shows your tax receipts and spec indie-horror script, the other is your real shit.
- ionised 9y ago
  TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt do that in a way. Plausible deniability by allowing you to decrypt with one of two different passwords. One gives you access to the volume with your data, the other opens a shadow volume that contains random non-senstive data.

mjevans 9y ago

Which is incredibly worrying as that 'random data' could it's self be a one time pad (the passphrase used for something else).

CyberDildonics 9y ago
How does that make things worse or change the situation?
- alain_gilbert 9y ago
  I think I meant to say: You have no idea if a file contains something needed as part of a decryption process, or if the file itself contains encrypted informations. So basically, having a "pad" file incriminate you.
- samfriedman 9y ago
  Presumably in that the data itself is not criminal, and there could be no viable method to determine whether the data the key decrypts is criminal.

dozzie 9y ago

What's this "my SOL"?

e12e 9y ago
[you are/you're] shit out of luck. IE: fucked. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOL http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOL

eternalban 9y ago

It certainly raises red flags, don't you agree? After all, what were you planning to do with those alledged "random" digits? What do you have to hide? You really shouldn't be able to access /dev/urandum until you have been cleared by a reputable Alphabet company. This is for our security and that "obviously" trumps individual rights (whatever that means). Root cause of all this is, of course, "bad thoughts" and "bad information", which IMHO should also be made illegal and only permitted in designated "free and error prone thought" areas and participants monitored by physicians from the Ministry of Error Free Thought.

m-j-fox 9y ago

Oh that gives me an idea. Let's make it so the blob can be decrypted 2 ways. One shows your tax receipts and spec indie-horror script, the other is your real shit.

ionised 9y ago
TrueCrypt/VeraCrypt do that in a way. Plausible deniability by allowing you to decrypt with one of two different passwords. One gives you access to the volume with your data, the other opens a shadow volume that contains random non-senstive data.