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I really only use free software. Outside of software development I don't really have any other software on my laptops. I have purchased tools and never pirate t

I really only use free software. Outside of software development I don't really have any other software on my laptops. I have purchased tools and never pirate them. Is pirating more of a Windows user's thing?

mvalle 16y ago
I think it is. I only use un-pirateable software.
PStamatiou 16y ago
> Is pirating more of a Windows user's thing? No. I know many designer/Mac folk that have never paid for any Adobe software in their lives and they pride themselves on each CS update so they can play with new brushes in Photoshop. (Okay I'm being a bit sensationalist.. CS5 Photoshop does bring in some pretty nifty content aware features)
- reynolds 16y ago
  True. I guess what I really meant is that if you're using a platform where most everything is free you don't really need to pirate software. Macs, in my opinion, could almost be lumped in with Windows.
  - masterj 16y ago
    My impression is that mac users tend to buy software more often than windows users as a percentage of the whole, at least for small to medium applications. Examples: Textmate, Transmit, Sizeup, Divvy, etc. I highly doubt that would apply to behemoths like photoshop though. Not that I have any data to back that up, just my general impression.
    - junkbit 16y ago
      I am amazed at the amount of trivial mac apps that sell for $20+. OMG, bold font pro and spellcheck+ are on special offer! Culture shock for a Linux user.
      - masterj 16y ago
        This is true, but there are quite a few high quality applications that that kind of culture enables as well. I would gladly pay for an ftp app as nice and polished as Transmit 4 on Linux, but as far as I know one doesn't exist. Not that there isn't great software on Linux, but I enjoy the emphasis placed on design by the Mac community when it comes to the top applications.
robryan 16y ago
I think culture does play a part, and reasonable pricing. It's easy for someone to justify pirating windows, especially if it's not their main operating system compared with OSX which is at a price point that no one but a broke teenager would really consider pirating it.
- pbhjpbhj 16y ago
  Please correct me if I'm wrong, I may well be on this - approx Amazon prices. Win 7 is from about £75 (home/student); Mac OS X 10.6 is from about £25. With Windows you get all the upgrades free until the next major release. With Mac OS X you pay for point releases and that is the price we see here? I note that Amazon (UK) has OS X 10.5 priced at c.£110. From Apple Computer's website, http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1338 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1338: Reference releases; update vs. upgrade Mac OS X v10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5 themselves are not downloadable updates, they are reference releases, also called upgrades. This means, for example, you can't upgrade from Mac OS X v10.3 to Mac OS X v10.5 via a downloadable installer. Reference releases are available from the Apple Store online, Apple Retail Stores, and Apple Authorized Distributors (AAD).
nailer 16y ago
Perhaps, but when I was a kid I used Linux and pirated Loki games, Transgaming, proprietary OSS drivers, VMware, and other bits and pieces. I'm clean now :^)

mvalle 16y ago

I think it is. I only use un-pirateable software.

PStamatiou 16y ago

> Is pirating more of a Windows user's thing? No. I know many designer/Mac folk that have never paid for any Adobe software in their lives and they pride themselves on each CS update so they can play with new brushes in Photoshop. (Okay I'm being a bit sensationalist.. CS5 Photoshop does bring in some pretty nifty content aware features)

reynolds 16y ago
True. I guess what I really meant is that if you're using a platform where most everything is free you don't really need to pirate software. Macs, in my opinion, could almost be lumped in with Windows.
- masterj 16y ago
  My impression is that mac users tend to buy software more often than windows users as a percentage of the whole, at least for small to medium applications. Examples: Textmate, Transmit, Sizeup, Divvy, etc. I highly doubt that would apply to behemoths like photoshop though. Not that I have any data to back that up, just my general impression.
  - junkbit 16y ago
    I am amazed at the amount of trivial mac apps that sell for $20+. OMG, bold font pro and spellcheck+ are on special offer! Culture shock for a Linux user.
    - masterj 16y ago
      This is true, but there are quite a few high quality applications that that kind of culture enables as well. I would gladly pay for an ftp app as nice and polished as Transmit 4 on Linux, but as far as I know one doesn't exist. Not that there isn't great software on Linux, but I enjoy the emphasis placed on design by the Mac community when it comes to the top applications.

robryan 16y ago

I think culture does play a part, and reasonable pricing. It's easy for someone to justify pirating windows, especially if it's not their main operating system compared with OSX which is at a price point that no one but a broke teenager would really consider pirating it.

pbhjpbhj 16y ago
Please correct me if I'm wrong, I may well be on this - approx Amazon prices. Win 7 is from about £75 (home/student); Mac OS X 10.6 is from about £25. With Windows you get all the upgrades free until the next major release. With Mac OS X you pay for point releases and that is the price we see here? I note that Amazon (UK) has OS X 10.5 priced at c.£110. From Apple Computer's website, http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1338 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1338: Reference releases; update vs. upgrade Mac OS X v10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4, 10.5 themselves are not downloadable updates, they are reference releases, also called upgrades. This means, for example, you can't upgrade from Mac OS X v10.3 to Mac OS X v10.5 via a downloadable installer. Reference releases are available from the Apple Store online, Apple Retail Stores, and Apple Authorized Distributors (AAD).

nailer 16y ago

Perhaps, but when I was a kid I used Linux and pirated Loki games, Transgaming, proprietary OSS drivers, VMware, and other bits and pieces. I'm clean now :^)