5 ms·

> "When and why did nudity become such a taboo there? " Much of the country was built and populated by puritans. State's rights and a lack of urbanization all

by roc 16y ago

> "When and why did nudity become such a taboo there? " Much of the country was built and populated by puritans. State's rights and a lack of urbanization allowed tight-knit communities of like-minded people to keep anyone different away. This created a sort of moral echo chamber, that carried their views into modernity without ever being tempered via intellectual or moral challenge. And the US system of representation gives those rural communities quite a bit of power over national mores. As for the rhetorical: it depends on context. It always depends on context. Nudity isn't necessarily less harmful. Hiding violence and death away from children can be just as harmful as hiding nudity.

olliesaunders 16y ago
Nudity, violence, and death cannot be hidden, they are inherit. Trying to hide them won't work. The more you hide it the more significant and fascinating the less frequent exposures appear. This isn't to say that extensive exposure can't lead to distorted conditioning or attitudes; it can. But you can't damage a child through non-exposure; it's just not possible in the first place.
- roc 16y ago
  > "But you can't damage a child through non-exposure; it's just not possible in the first place." Whether honest non-exposure might be fine is beyond even an academic concern. It's overwhelmingly improbable that a child could be raised without being exposed to those things; short of willful sheltering.
  - olliesaunders 16y ago
    Short of imprisonment and brainwashing I'd say.
- Yaggo 16y ago
  Unless you work as a cop or live in a war zone, (luckily) most people don't usually see (or experience) brutal violence in their life. We learn that stuff from tv. But most of us exposure daily to naked human body (in fact, we live in one) and its intimate parts since day zero. So, while I agree that no child should hidden from reality (or vice versa), I would think twice what's the actual reality and the fictional-reality-brought-to-you-by-enterntaintment-industry.
  - pbhjpbhj 16y ago
    >most people don't usually see (or experience) brutal violence in their life I'm going to stretch my neck out (as it were) and say that most people in the world butcher their own meat and at least kill some of the meat they consume. Granted outside the wealthy regions this is rarely going to be large animals but still. Many many peoples are exposed daily to the threat of major violence to themselves too. I'll tentatively accept that the majority of humans don't directly witness brutal violence against other humans in their lives.

by roc 16y ago

olliesaunders 16y ago

Nudity, violence, and death cannot be hidden, they are inherit. Trying to hide them won't work. The more you hide it the more significant and fascinating the less frequent exposures appear. This isn't to say that extensive exposure can't lead to distorted conditioning or attitudes; it can. But you can't damage a child through non-exposure; it's just not possible in the first place.

roc 16y ago
> "But you can't damage a child through non-exposure; it's just not possible in the first place." Whether honest non-exposure might be fine is beyond even an academic concern. It's overwhelmingly improbable that a child could be raised without being exposed to those things; short of willful sheltering.
- olliesaunders 16y ago
  Short of imprisonment and brainwashing I'd say.
Yaggo 16y ago
Unless you work as a cop or live in a war zone, (luckily) most people don't usually see (or experience) brutal violence in their life. We learn that stuff from tv. But most of us exposure daily to naked human body (in fact, we live in one) and its intimate parts since day zero. So, while I agree that no child should hidden from reality (or vice versa), I would think twice what's the actual reality and the fictional-reality-brought-to-you-by-enterntaintment-industry.
- pbhjpbhj 16y ago
  >most people don't usually see (or experience) brutal violence in their life I'm going to stretch my neck out (as it were) and say that most people in the world butcher their own meat and at least kill some of the meat they consume. Granted outside the wealthy regions this is rarely going to be large animals but still. Many many peoples are exposed daily to the threat of major violence to themselves too. I'll tentatively accept that the majority of humans don't directly witness brutal violence against other humans in their lives.