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for the same reason you need a license to drive: regulations.

by aw4y 9y ago

pavlakoos 9y ago
But there is a license for that: a driving license. And the one which is given allows to drive a car with passengers inside. It should be enough...
- k-mcgrady 9y ago
  There's a difference between driving another person from A to B and charging that person. As a comparison you can invite a friend to your house and cook for them. If you start charging people for that there will be food safety regulations etc. you need to comply with.
  - pavlakoos 9y ago
    So perhaps adding the insurance for Uber drivers would solve the issue? I really don't see other reason. Except for the governments fighting with concepts which disrupt current, inconvenient and outdated state of things.
    - Symbiote 9y ago
      "Criteria failed: 2) Medical certificates" That seems an a obvious requirement for the insurance, but Uber aren't complying. Not everything needs to be seen with a negative (American?) view of government. Uber's competitors, including those with apps, have licenses.
    - DrNuke 9y ago
      In principle, being regulated means you adhere to some sort of code of conduct and are fully accountable for whatever goes wrong on your side, which is seldom the case with do-it-yourself solutions... in the latter case, you are basically on your own and good luck, aka roulette. Many people find it unsafe for several reasons not difficult to figure out.
  - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
    In the UK we have an excellent 0-to-5 point rating scheme for all establishments that serve or prepare food. It includes Street food vendors, kiosks, even schools. All sellers are required to show their "number" at the front door or POS, you can verify it online. You used to be able to see the inspectors report too (sadly it seems they removed that feature and replaced with a summary). It's an excellent system that warrants repetition in other industries. Regulation done right greatly improves one's position soliciting services - I want to know if my driver has had recent accidents, speeding tickets, has poor health, doesn't pass a DBS check, can speak my language (very useful in cities you don't know), that their vehicle is safe.
- kuschku 9y ago
  Actually it doesn’t. In many places your regular driving license becomes void as soon as you have a single paying passenger, and it becomes driving without a license, and you get a fine. Germany is one such place. Good news is, a driving license for with passengers is just an additional test that will overall set you back less than 100 Euros. And, additionally, your insurance becomes void as soon as you have a paying passenger, or are driving to one. But cars on the road need insurance, and Uber’s insurance only is valid while a passenger is in the vehicle – not on the way to the passenger.
  - pavlakoos 9y ago
    That's a new thing to me. I was driving in Germany several times with passengers and I didn't know my current driving license isn't good for it. I even rented a car at the airport and Hertz clerk haven't mentioned anything, despite seeing me approaching with friends. They only asked if there are drivers, not passengers. So how does it work?
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    - Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
      > a single _paying_ passenger Not passengers in general. Your Hertz terms will clearly say that you're not allowed to use the car to carry paying passengers.
      - pavlakoos 9y ago
        My bad. I missed that "paying" word.
    - jacquesm 9y ago
      paying passengers.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      If you transport people commercially – be it as driver for hire, Uber driver, taxi driver, etc, you’ll need a Führerschein Klasse P: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerschein_zur_Fahrgastbef%C3%B6rderung https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerschein_zur_Fahrgast... This allows up to 8 passengers. If you want more, you need a license for bus drivers, Führerschein Klasse D. If the passengers pay you less than, or equal to the costs that you had during driving, you do not require any of this, and it is considered noncommercial (for example, when carpooling and passengers pay for gas)

for the same reason you need a license to drive: regulations.

by aw4y 9y ago

for the same reason you need a license to drive: regulations.

But there is a license for that: a driving license. And the one which is given allows to drive a car with passengers inside. It should be enough...

k-mcgrady 9y ago
There's a difference between driving another person from A to B and charging that person. As a comparison you can invite a friend to your house and cook for them. If you start charging people for that there will be food safety regulations etc. you need to comply with.
- pavlakoos 9y ago
  So perhaps adding the insurance for Uber drivers would solve the issue? I really don't see other reason. Except for the governments fighting with concepts which disrupt current, inconvenient and outdated state of things.
  - Symbiote 9y ago
    "Criteria failed: 2) Medical certificates" That seems an a obvious requirement for the insurance, but Uber aren't complying. Not everything needs to be seen with a negative (American?) view of government. Uber's competitors, including those with apps, have licenses.
  - DrNuke 9y ago
    In principle, being regulated means you adhere to some sort of code of conduct and are fully accountable for whatever goes wrong on your side, which is seldom the case with do-it-yourself solutions... in the latter case, you are basically on your own and good luck, aka roulette. Many people find it unsafe for several reasons not difficult to figure out.
- pbhjpbhj 9y ago
  In the UK we have an excellent 0-to-5 point rating scheme for all establishments that serve or prepare food. It includes Street food vendors, kiosks, even schools. All sellers are required to show their "number" at the front door or POS, you can verify it online. You used to be able to see the inspectors report too (sadly it seems they removed that feature and replaced with a summary). It's an excellent system that warrants repetition in other industries. Regulation done right greatly improves one's position soliciting services - I want to know if my driver has had recent accidents, speeding tickets, has poor health, doesn't pass a DBS check, can speak my language (very useful in cities you don't know), that their vehicle is safe.
kuschku 9y ago
Actually it doesn’t. In many places your regular driving license becomes void as soon as you have a single paying passenger, and it becomes driving without a license, and you get a fine. Germany is one such place. Good news is, a driving license for with passengers is just an additional test that will overall set you back less than 100 Euros. And, additionally, your insurance becomes void as soon as you have a paying passenger, or are driving to one. But cars on the road need insurance, and Uber’s insurance only is valid while a passenger is in the vehicle – not on the way to the passenger.
- pavlakoos 9y ago
  That's a new thing to me. I was driving in Germany several times with passengers and I didn't know my current driving license isn't good for it. I even rented a car at the airport and Hertz clerk haven't mentioned anything, despite seeing me approaching with friends. They only asked if there are drivers, not passengers. So how does it work?
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  - Doctor_Fegg 9y ago
    > a single _paying_ passenger Not passengers in general. Your Hertz terms will clearly say that you're not allowed to use the car to carry paying passengers.
    - pavlakoos 9y ago
      My bad. I missed that "paying" word.
  - jacquesm 9y ago
    paying passengers.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    If you transport people commercially – be it as driver for hire, Uber driver, taxi driver, etc, you’ll need a Führerschein Klasse P: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerschein_zur_Fahrgastbef%C3%B6rderung https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrerschein_zur_Fahrgast... This allows up to 8 passengers. If you want more, you need a license for bus drivers, Führerschein Klasse D. If the passengers pay you less than, or equal to the costs that you had during driving, you do not require any of this, and it is considered noncommercial (for example, when carpooling and passengers pay for gas)