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> The water isn't safe to drink, and Coke can be cheaper than milk or formula, so some moms feed their babies Coke instead. Fucking hell that's awful.

brianwawok 9y ago
idiocy playing out in real life
- dajohnson89 9y ago
  It's not idiocy, it's lack of health education which is a luxury that many talk for granted.
artursapek 9y ago
Does coca-cola charge for breast milk over there?
- randlet 9y ago
  Breast feeding is preferred but not always possible for a variety of reasons. Having to fall back on fucking Coke is a pretty grim reality to contemplate.
  - artursapek 9y ago
    I agree. I once saw a woman feeding a chocolate hostess cake to her <6 month old baby on the subway in NYC and it made me feel sick. This was while I myself had a similarly aged baby.
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- Spooky23 9y ago
  You probably haven't lactated. It's not that simple -- once a baby accepts formula, it's nearly impossible to breast feed. That's a big reason why breastmilk companies are ready, willing and eager to "help" with sample product. Hell, somehow two of those companies were able to estimate the birthdate that our child would have likely had if my wife hadn't miscarried early. They go to the expense of mailing 10 lb boxes of product with a retail value of around $75 to people -- it's almost an "addictive" product with ROI high enough to justify that large marketing expense. In third world countries, they go so far as to send people dressed like nurses to provide samples and "help".
  - LyndsySimon 9y ago
    > once a baby accepts formula, it's nearly impossible to breast feed. I'm male, but I'm a parent and remember dealing with this stuff. In addition to difficulty getting the baby to latch after feeding formula very early, there's also the issue of building and maintaining supply. The first few days of life are important for both mother and baby - there isn't a lot of milk being produced at first, and the child's attempts at nursing encourage milk production to begin in earnest. The natural course is that the mother's milk comes in to meet the baby's growing need. If you "skip" a day or two in the beginning, even if you get the kid to latch there isn't going to be enough milk to satisfy them. This leads to supplementing with formula, which in turn solidifies difficulty latching and further delays milk production. I remember having to be very firm with hospital staff to under no circumstances feed our first daughter formula. In the first couple of days they really pushed us to, justifying it by saying "Momma needs her rest!" and "Dad should experience feeding the baby, too." We had a good experience overall with both our children, but in both cases I had to really take command of the situation to ensure that our wishes were followed. In a couple of cases that was even "against medical advice".
  - ChuckMcM 9y ago
    I'm male (Father) of three daughters who all breast fed. They also occasionally got formula when it was not possible to breast feed them but it did not change their breast feeding at all. There is a lot of noise around breast feeding on the Internet but if you've got references to something other than apocryphal about formula preventing breast feeding I'm sure my daughters would like to know about it.
    - Spooky23 9y ago
      The key is in the first few days to teach mother and child how to latch to the breast. If your wife and daughters breastfed in the hospital or immediately thereafter and then supplemented, that is different (and lower ROI) scenario. There’s a ton of published material on the topic.
afsina 9y ago
I think OP may be correct that people do this, but I am not at all convinced with the reasons.
ada1981 9y ago
My cousin adopted a kid from near the US Mexican border. She told me when they first brought him home (he was 5), that he could barely speak, was terrified and kept screaming "oda!". They thought perhaps Oda was the name of his brother who was sold into slavery by his birth mother. He was unrelenting in his crys. Finally, exhausted, my cousins husband sat down at 3am and opened a Coke to drink. The boy pointed and screamed "oda!". He wanted Soda. They gave him some and his entire nervous system relaxed and he could goto sleep. He was raised in a drug house, spent most of his life locked in a closet with little food and plenty of feces.. and his mother bottle fed him soda. When they adopted him he was like a feral animal, hiding and picking food out of the trash. He's now 9 and doing much better (they had to ween him off soda). He's relaxed and is in a loving and safe home. But fuck sakes, I don't think most of us have any idea the horror that many people are facing on a daily basis.
- fapjacks 9y ago
  What you call a "horror" is what most human beings throughout history would call "life". Not only history, but most human beings throughout the world today. We in the developed world enjoy a dream-like existence few in the whole of human history have ever known. Legit the biggest problem some people will have today is that someone forgot they didn't want guacamole on their burrito. Unfortunately, this has a way of completely twisting and corrupting one's view of the world, and it gives most people a very strange set of priorities. Most human beings alive today are living in dangerous shitholes. Some people need to carry an AK-47 to go to the market, but because they have semi-reliable access to food, they're better off than a lot of others. The one thing the infantry taught me is what the reality of life is like for the vast vast majority of human beings not living lucky in the developed world. And really, any history book will teach you that this is and has been the standard throughout our existence. I wake up every single day thanking the stars for the life I have. I think more people in the developed world could stand to be grateful for what they've got.
  - esarbe 9y ago
    This. > We in the developed world enjoy a dream-like existence few in the whole of human history have ever known. You just have to ask yourself; how many of my ancestors were able to afford a hot shower in the morning and you begin to realize, how mind-fuckingly amazing the life we have actually is. Thanks for putting it into words.

brianwawok 9y ago

idiocy playing out in real life

dajohnson89 9y ago
It's not idiocy, it's lack of health education which is a luxury that many talk for granted.

artursapek 9y ago

Does coca-cola charge for breast milk over there?

randlet 9y ago
Breast feeding is preferred but not always possible for a variety of reasons. Having to fall back on fucking Coke is a pretty grim reality to contemplate.
- artursapek 9y ago
  I agree. I once saw a woman feeding a chocolate hostess cake to her <6 month old baby on the subway in NYC and it made me feel sick. This was while I myself had a similarly aged baby.
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Spooky23 9y ago
You probably haven't lactated. It's not that simple -- once a baby accepts formula, it's nearly impossible to breast feed. That's a big reason why breastmilk companies are ready, willing and eager to "help" with sample product. Hell, somehow two of those companies were able to estimate the birthdate that our child would have likely had if my wife hadn't miscarried early. They go to the expense of mailing 10 lb boxes of product with a retail value of around $75 to people -- it's almost an "addictive" product with ROI high enough to justify that large marketing expense. In third world countries, they go so far as to send people dressed like nurses to provide samples and "help".
- LyndsySimon 9y ago
  > once a baby accepts formula, it's nearly impossible to breast feed. I'm male, but I'm a parent and remember dealing with this stuff. In addition to difficulty getting the baby to latch after feeding formula very early, there's also the issue of building and maintaining supply. The first few days of life are important for both mother and baby - there isn't a lot of milk being produced at first, and the child's attempts at nursing encourage milk production to begin in earnest. The natural course is that the mother's milk comes in to meet the baby's growing need. If you "skip" a day or two in the beginning, even if you get the kid to latch there isn't going to be enough milk to satisfy them. This leads to supplementing with formula, which in turn solidifies difficulty latching and further delays milk production. I remember having to be very firm with hospital staff to under no circumstances feed our first daughter formula. In the first couple of days they really pushed us to, justifying it by saying "Momma needs her rest!" and "Dad should experience feeding the baby, too." We had a good experience overall with both our children, but in both cases I had to really take command of the situation to ensure that our wishes were followed. In a couple of cases that was even "against medical advice".
- ChuckMcM 9y ago
  I'm male (Father) of three daughters who all breast fed. They also occasionally got formula when it was not possible to breast feed them but it did not change their breast feeding at all. There is a lot of noise around breast feeding on the Internet but if you've got references to something other than apocryphal about formula preventing breast feeding I'm sure my daughters would like to know about it.
  - Spooky23 9y ago
    The key is in the first few days to teach mother and child how to latch to the breast. If your wife and daughters breastfed in the hospital or immediately thereafter and then supplemented, that is different (and lower ROI) scenario. There’s a ton of published material on the topic.

afsina 9y ago

I think OP may be correct that people do this, but I am not at all convinced with the reasons.

ada1981 9y ago

My cousin adopted a kid from near the US Mexican border. She told me when they first brought him home (he was 5), that he could barely speak, was terrified and kept screaming "oda!". They thought perhaps Oda was the name of his brother who was sold into slavery by his birth mother. He was unrelenting in his crys. Finally, exhausted, my cousins husband sat down at 3am and opened a Coke to drink. The boy pointed and screamed "oda!". He wanted Soda. They gave him some and his entire nervous system relaxed and he could goto sleep. He was raised in a drug house, spent most of his life locked in a closet with little food and plenty of feces.. and his mother bottle fed him soda. When they adopted him he was like a feral animal, hiding and picking food out of the trash. He's now 9 and doing much better (they had to ween him off soda). He's relaxed and is in a loving and safe home. But fuck sakes, I don't think most of us have any idea the horror that many people are facing on a daily basis.

fapjacks 9y ago
What you call a "horror" is what most human beings throughout history would call "life". Not only history, but most human beings throughout the world today. We in the developed world enjoy a dream-like existence few in the whole of human history have ever known. Legit the biggest problem some people will have today is that someone forgot they didn't want guacamole on their burrito. Unfortunately, this has a way of completely twisting and corrupting one's view of the world, and it gives most people a very strange set of priorities. Most human beings alive today are living in dangerous shitholes. Some people need to carry an AK-47 to go to the market, but because they have semi-reliable access to food, they're better off than a lot of others. The one thing the infantry taught me is what the reality of life is like for the vast vast majority of human beings not living lucky in the developed world. And really, any history book will teach you that this is and has been the standard throughout our existence. I wake up every single day thanking the stars for the life I have. I think more people in the developed world could stand to be grateful for what they've got.
- esarbe 9y ago
  This. > We in the developed world enjoy a dream-like existence few in the whole of human history have ever known. You just have to ask yourself; how many of my ancestors were able to afford a hot shower in the morning and you begin to realize, how mind-fuckingly amazing the life we have actually is. Thanks for putting it into words.