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Umm that is what is happening WITH the standard I still can not believe the number of people that do not understand what EME is EME enabled Properiertary Plug

by syshum 9y ago

Umm that is what is happening WITH the standard I still can not believe the number of people that do not understand what EME is EME enabled Properiertary Plugins, it gives control over the web to MS, Google, and Adobe. Full Stop. They will control everything. Widevine, Adobe CDM, and MS PlayReady. Those are your proprietary EME plugins that everyone must use now Welcome to the non-open Web Thanks Tim berners-lee, good job

rimliu 9y ago
There was a bunch of proprietary plugins before EME was even on the horizon.
- Crespyl 9y ago
  And we were finally killing them off with the death of Flash, Java Plug-In, and Silverlight, and the adoption of HTML5.
  - Sargos 9y ago
    I don't think that's true. EME exists -because- we started getting rid of Flash, Java, Silverlight etc due to their security issues. There needed to be something to replace those proprietary plugins or else some of the largest websites on the internet would just break with no way to fix them. EME is the standardized version of the needed functionality from those obsolete plugins.
    - syshum 9y ago
      I dont think that is true. EME exists because media companies have the strange desire to treat their customers like criminals and Technology companies have the desire to ensure the user can not control the devices they "buy" from them. EME is about control and limiting freedom, not about replacing Flash
      - Sargos 9y ago
        What I said is technically true. You are simply talking about conspiracy theories and politics. TV/Movie producers have a legitimate reason to want to protect their media. The lower the bar is for viewing the content they spend lots of money and work producing for free the more people do it. If there were no barriers to viewing movies then there are zero ways in our current economy to get a positive return. You can't fund Wonder Woman on money from advertisements. There needs to be a system where people pay for content. EME is a means to an end. It's not inherently evil. If someone takes it and uses it for an evil purpose then we might have something to discuss, but today there is no way for our modern media to exist in a fully open source world. If EME didn't exist then we would still be using plugins to view Netflix. There is no situation where Netflix can operate in a fully open source system. And that's not a bad thing.
        syshum 9y ago
        >>TV/Movie producers have a legitimate reason to want to protect their media. I disagree. >>>The lower the bar is for viewing the content they spend lots of money and work producing for free the more people do it. If there were no barriers to viewing movies then there are zero ways in our current economy to get a positive return umm they are the ones creating the Barriers, DRM is a Barrier. I can not tell you how many times I have wanted to buy a movie or some other content only to find out it is not on the Platform or service I have choose to use. Instead they want to only use the Platforms or services they bless. This is where the monopoly power of copyright breaks down. If I want to watch a movie using my rPi running kodi I should have an easy way to buy a movie that just plays via a standard codec, it should not only be on a netflix, or worse now that every studio is making their own streaming platform we are going to see more piracy because they are simply refusing to sell their content in the manner consumer wants to buy it. Basicly if you do not use Windows/Mac/Andirod/iOS you are out of consuming media. Linux haha screw you >>EME is a means to an end. It's not inherently evil DRM is inherently evil.. >>but today there is no way for our modern media to exist in a fully open source world. That is completely false there is thousand and thousands of hours of media that exist in a fully open source world. Music is almost all DRM free today, there is a strong push for DRM Free books, TV and Movies seem to be the last hold outs for Defective by Design DRM.
  - rimliu 9y ago
    Funny how all are up to arms against EME, but are fine with advertising crap. Just because it it open, I guess.

by syshum 9y ago

rimliu 9y ago

There was a bunch of proprietary plugins before EME was even on the horizon.

Crespyl 9y ago
And we were finally killing them off with the death of Flash, Java Plug-In, and Silverlight, and the adoption of HTML5.
- Sargos 9y ago
  I don't think that's true. EME exists -because- we started getting rid of Flash, Java, Silverlight etc due to their security issues. There needed to be something to replace those proprietary plugins or else some of the largest websites on the internet would just break with no way to fix them. EME is the standardized version of the needed functionality from those obsolete plugins.
  - syshum 9y ago
    I dont think that is true. EME exists because media companies have the strange desire to treat their customers like criminals and Technology companies have the desire to ensure the user can not control the devices they "buy" from them. EME is about control and limiting freedom, not about replacing Flash
    - Sargos 9y ago
      What I said is technically true. You are simply talking about conspiracy theories and politics. TV/Movie producers have a legitimate reason to want to protect their media. The lower the bar is for viewing the content they spend lots of money and work producing for free the more people do it. If there were no barriers to viewing movies then there are zero ways in our current economy to get a positive return. You can't fund Wonder Woman on money from advertisements. There needs to be a system where people pay for content. EME is a means to an end. It's not inherently evil. If someone takes it and uses it for an evil purpose then we might have something to discuss, but today there is no way for our modern media to exist in a fully open source world. If EME didn't exist then we would still be using plugins to view Netflix. There is no situation where Netflix can operate in a fully open source system. And that's not a bad thing.
      - syshum 9y ago
        >>TV/Movie producers have a legitimate reason to want to protect their media. I disagree. >>>The lower the bar is for viewing the content they spend lots of money and work producing for free the more people do it. If there were no barriers to viewing movies then there are zero ways in our current economy to get a positive return umm they are the ones creating the Barriers, DRM is a Barrier. I can not tell you how many times I have wanted to buy a movie or some other content only to find out it is not on the Platform or service I have choose to use. Instead they want to only use the Platforms or services they bless. This is where the monopoly power of copyright breaks down. If I want to watch a movie using my rPi running kodi I should have an easy way to buy a movie that just plays via a standard codec, it should not only be on a netflix, or worse now that every studio is making their own streaming platform we are going to see more piracy because they are simply refusing to sell their content in the manner consumer wants to buy it. Basicly if you do not use Windows/Mac/Andirod/iOS you are out of consuming media. Linux haha screw you >>EME is a means to an end. It's not inherently evil DRM is inherently evil.. >>but today there is no way for our modern media to exist in a fully open source world. That is completely false there is thousand and thousands of hours of media that exist in a fully open source world. Music is almost all DRM free today, there is a strong push for DRM Free books, TV and Movies seem to be the last hold outs for Defective by Design DRM.
- rimliu 9y ago
  Funny how all are up to arms against EME, but are fine with advertising crap. Just because it it open, I guess.