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Point of reference here - I plugged in an old 2008 Macbook Pro with no battery (it had expanded, so I took it back to Apple for recycling), and it booted up fin

Point of reference here - I plugged in an old 2008 Macbook Pro with no battery (it had expanded, so I took it back to Apple for recycling), and it booted up fine from a Magsafe 1 charger. So I don't know if that's the case.

StudentStuff 9y ago
It was the case for me and @m_mueller apparently, my old MBP had one of those inflated batteries from heat likely, the only other device I've seen a battery puff up like that in is an old Blackberry. No bueno! Never seen significant puffage in the used/broken Li-Ion battery packs I've rebuilt either, so presumably that is moderately unique to Apple?
- _jal 9y ago
  It is unique to the laws of physics in this universe. If you look around, you'll find video of exploding flashlights, and it wasn't Apple that recently had airlines forbidding you to bring their devices onto planes... So, that's drivers, batteries, and keyboard-coatings; what's next?
  - StudentStuff 9y ago
    Saving your email you used for iCloud to the UEFI in plain text and providing no way to wipe it? Could take a sledgehammer to it... Never said that battery failure was something that only occurred with Apple, just the way they fail (puffing up) was something that has happened to myself and two of my friends, meanwhile these 5+ year old battery packs from HPs and Dells that I've been pulling apart had a cell or two fail to retain a charge, but they don't significantly expand in size usually.
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    - marksomnian 9y ago
      > providing no way to wipe it sudo nvram -d fmm-mobileme-token-FMM
_ix 9y ago
Same here. That battery was pretty scary. Personally, I don't remember owning a battery removable Mac notebook between the PowerBook G4 to the MacBook Pro that couldn't function without a battery while plugged in.
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  The Duo was the first, and not every powerbook after it copied this design. I think they might have pulled it out again for the G1 Air, but I'm not sure.
pndmnm 9y ago
I have a summer 2009 MBP whose battery failed in... 2013, I think. I removed the battery and have been running it off just the Magsafe adapter ever since (just as a low-power home server).

StudentStuff 9y ago

It was the case for me and @m_mueller apparently, my old MBP had one of those inflated batteries from heat likely, the only other device I've seen a battery puff up like that in is an old Blackberry. No bueno! Never seen significant puffage in the used/broken Li-Ion battery packs I've rebuilt either, so presumably that is moderately unique to Apple?

_jal 9y ago
It is unique to the laws of physics in this universe. If you look around, you'll find video of exploding flashlights, and it wasn't Apple that recently had airlines forbidding you to bring their devices onto planes... So, that's drivers, batteries, and keyboard-coatings; what's next?
- StudentStuff 9y ago
  Saving your email you used for iCloud to the UEFI in plain text and providing no way to wipe it? Could take a sledgehammer to it... Never said that battery failure was something that only occurred with Apple, just the way they fail (puffing up) was something that has happened to myself and two of my friends, meanwhile these 5+ year old battery packs from HPs and Dells that I've been pulling apart had a cell or two fail to retain a charge, but they don't significantly expand in size usually.
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  - marksomnian 9y ago
    > providing no way to wipe it sudo nvram -d fmm-mobileme-token-FMM

_ix 9y ago

Same here. That battery was pretty scary. Personally, I don't remember owning a battery removable Mac notebook between the PowerBook G4 to the MacBook Pro that couldn't function without a battery while plugged in.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
The Duo was the first, and not every powerbook after it copied this design. I think they might have pulled it out again for the G1 Air, but I'm not sure.

pndmnm 9y ago

I have a summer 2009 MBP whose battery failed in... 2013, I think. I removed the battery and have been running it off just the Magsafe adapter ever since (just as a low-power home server).