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The 4 hour rule sounds VERY annoying. It means for example I'll be forced to type my passcode after waking up. So many years of Touch ID will make such a burden

The 4 hour rule sounds VERY annoying. It means for example I'll be forced to type my passcode after waking up. So many years of Touch ID will make such a burden UNBEARABLE.

sperm 9y ago
Absolutely unbearable. Borderline inhumane!
MBCook 9y ago
I think that's a misinterpretation. Here is the full quote: > You’ll also get a passcode request if you haven’t unlocked the phone using a passcode or at all in 6.5 days and if Face ID hasn’t unlocked it in 4 hours. You already need a password if you haven't used TouchID in 48 hours. This rule seems to exist to make sure you have to enter your password after about a week if by then you go over 4 hours without using FaceID. You don't need to use a password any time you go more than 4 hours. I agree that would be insane and would be much stricter than what they apply to TouchID (which they say is less secure). EDIT: I notice the GP's comment seems to have been edited since the time you posted yours.
- kibwen 9y ago
  I copied the text directly from the article, unedited; it really is just worded poorly (I did the same double-take).
  - MBCook 9y ago
    I remember thinking that when I read the article (I totally agree), but I thought you had summarized it earlier instead of a literal copy. Sorry.
coolspot 9y ago
Once a week. It must be 6.5 days with FaceID-only unlocks AND 4 hours without FaceID unlock.
- nariinano 9y ago
  That's not the way I understand it. I read it as "you'll need the pass if you haven't unlocked with touch id in 6.5 days AND you'll need the pass if you haven't unlocked with face id in 4 hours"
  - kibwen 9y ago
    This interpretation is very unlikely, given that it would be redundant with the first bullet point: "If you haven’t used Face ID in 48 hours [...] it will ask for a passcode". Assuming that Apple engineers aren't stupid, the correct interpretation is "we want people to enter their passwords at least once a week so they don't forget them, but we also don't want to bother them if they're in the middle of something". So yes, once a week, you will be forced to type your password upon waking up.
    - cbhl 9y ago
      I read it as "you need to enter your password if you haven't used your phone in a week, but if you use your phone every day, you only have to enter your password after each reboot"
willstrafach 9y ago
That part was worded in a bit of a clumsy manner I think. It is in combination with not entering the passcode in X many days, as it already is with Touch ID (You may have already experienced this occasionally - waking up and randomly needing to enter your passcode instead of being able to use Touch ID).
eridius 9y ago
The 6.5 days plus 4 hours rule is the exact same rule we've had with TouchID all along. Nothing changed in that respect.
valuearb 9y ago
It's clearly a typo in the article. It's 48 hours without unlocking with Face ID.

The 4 hour rule sounds VERY annoying. It means for example I'll be forced to type my passcode after waking up. So many years of Touch ID will make such a burden UNBEARABLE.

sperm 9y ago

Absolutely unbearable. Borderline inhumane!

MBCook 9y ago

I think that's a misinterpretation. Here is the full quote: > You’ll also get a passcode request if you haven’t unlocked the phone using a passcode or at all in 6.5 days and if Face ID hasn’t unlocked it in 4 hours. You already need a password if you haven't used TouchID in 48 hours. This rule seems to exist to make sure you have to enter your password after about a week if by then you go over 4 hours without using FaceID. You don't need to use a password any time you go more than 4 hours. I agree that would be insane and would be much stricter than what they apply to TouchID (which they say is less secure). EDIT: I notice the GP's comment seems to have been edited since the time you posted yours.

kibwen 9y ago
I copied the text directly from the article, unedited; it really is just worded poorly (I did the same double-take).
- MBCook 9y ago
  I remember thinking that when I read the article (I totally agree), but I thought you had summarized it earlier instead of a literal copy. Sorry.

coolspot 9y ago

Once a week. It must be 6.5 days with FaceID-only unlocks AND 4 hours without FaceID unlock.

nariinano 9y ago
That's not the way I understand it. I read it as "you'll need the pass if you haven't unlocked with touch id in 6.5 days AND you'll need the pass if you haven't unlocked with face id in 4 hours"
- kibwen 9y ago
  This interpretation is very unlikely, given that it would be redundant with the first bullet point: "If you haven’t used Face ID in 48 hours [...] it will ask for a passcode". Assuming that Apple engineers aren't stupid, the correct interpretation is "we want people to enter their passwords at least once a week so they don't forget them, but we also don't want to bother them if they're in the middle of something". So yes, once a week, you will be forced to type your password upon waking up.
  - cbhl 9y ago
    I read it as "you need to enter your password if you haven't used your phone in a week, but if you use your phone every day, you only have to enter your password after each reboot"

willstrafach 9y ago

That part was worded in a bit of a clumsy manner I think. It is in combination with not entering the passcode in X many days, as it already is with Touch ID (You may have already experienced this occasionally - waking up and randomly needing to enter your passcode instead of being able to use Touch ID).

eridius 9y ago

The 6.5 days plus 4 hours rule is the exact same rule we've had with TouchID all along. Nothing changed in that respect.

valuearb 9y ago

It's clearly a typo in the article. It's 48 hours without unlocking with Face ID.