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I don't play EVE because there are already enough demands on my time, but damned if this commercial (entirely done with voice comms) hasn't come close to pushin

by mrdmnd 9y ago

I don't play EVE because there are already enough demands on my time, but damned if this commercial (entirely done with voice comms) hasn't come close to pushing me over the edge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdfFnTt2UT0

murderfs 9y ago
This is a more realistic version, IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A
- corobo 9y ago
  GP "Oh man that looks so awesome!" Parent: "I'll stick to solitaire" The idea behind Eve is extremely appealing but damn if I'm not just done with people screaming into a microphone. I'll stick to reading the postmortems after interesting things happen
  - Anderkent 9y ago
    I believe there's interesting gameplay in smaller groups, without all the screaming, but yeah, large conflicts are fun to read about and not necessarily fun to play.
  - Mithaldu 9y ago
    The point you're missing, and what makes this funny, is that this is actually super rare. This isn't Call of Duty, you don't have children yelling random curse words at you while tea-bagging you. Voice comms in Eve is almost exclusively between allies you've been together with for a long time. As such, things getting loud is always either extremely exceptional, or fitting and unsurprising to the context. Both of these videos are accurate, and while the second one does happen, the former is the actual norm.
  - pavel_lishin 9y ago
    > damn if I'm not just done with people screaming into a microphone. Aside from the huge time-sink that's involved in any MMO, I mostly don't want to have to have a part-time job playing politics. That's what kills it for me; I love that Eve Online exists, but I have zero interest whatsoever building a whole other parallel set of friendships, alliances, etc. outside of my current life. Even if they were the nicest antithesis of League of Legends chat, I just don't have the emotional energy to put into it.
    - chii 9y ago
      > I have zero interest whatsoever building a whole other parallel set of friendships, alliances, etc. outside of my current life. yes, some people call EVE their life, and their irl is just something to get money. It's certainly not for everyone.
    - ethbro 9y ago
      I haven't played in years, but last I did there was a huge range in engagement levels to have "fun". With one or two friends, I'd say one could have a blast pirating for a couple years. It's one of the higher doing_fun_things:total_time_playing ratios I've found in a multiplayer game. The balance is really well done. Two specialized smaller ships > one general larger ship. And coordinating on voicecoms after you've got the normal sequence of actions down doesn't sound that different than a sci-fi series. "Jumping. Two contacts. Found them on the belt 5. Miners, no escort. In position to warp disrupt. Popping bubble and web. Tackled. Jump, jump, jump." (Plan comes together, fireworks ensue) And in general, most people keep it in perspective. Hence "it's just internet spaceships" jokes.
- brianwawok 9y ago
  hahaha if you get bored skip to the last 30 seconds at least To be fair, not all corps are dysfunctional. I had some good times and no one was like that.
- redler 9y ago
  So...a lot of loud dudes. Do any women play this game?
  - greymeister 9y ago
    Female are present in the leadership of several large organizations in Eve. You generally don't hear them screaming like children on mumble though.
  - brainfire 9y ago
    The developer once noted that 96% of subscribers are male.
- branchless 9y ago
  Wow that put me off. A bunch of kidults who need to get a grip.
princeb 9y ago
i tried getting into it when alpha accounts went free to play. if all you have is about 1-2 unscheduled hours a week you could not find a worse game to play.
- ivm 9y ago
  All MMOs are not suitable for most adults because their content is calibrated towards teenagers who can play over 8 hours a day.
nmeofthestate 9y ago
Yes Eve is amazing to read about, but looking at it from the outside it seems like if you're not a huge ego, you're signing up to be a cog in a machine.
- rhaps0dy 9y ago
  Which suits a lot of people fine. So long as you get to participate in these massive battles... I've never played it though.
  - sbov 9y ago
    The massive battles are pretty boring. They also last forever because they slow the game down to something like 10% speed to help the servers keep up. It's way more fun reading about them.
    - chii 9y ago
      massive battles are what makes it to the press, but the real fun is in small skirmishes in unconquerable space (wormhole space). The game mechanics prevents massive swarms - so you'll be fighting highly elite, small groups (in the order of 5-10), in small to medium sized ships. It takes skill, dedication, as well as some luck (since you can't tell who is in the "system" with you in wormhole space, unlike in regular space). You have to constantly do scan, and entrances and exists shift (so you _can_ get stuck with no way back). But that's the fun of it!
- ansible 9y ago
  Yes Eve is amazing to read about, but looking at it from the outside it seems like if you're not a huge ego, you're signing up to be a cog in a machine. That's one of the interesting things about EVE from a story perspective. For most games, you're the "Chosen One": the Dragonborn, the Master Chief, The One. You're supposed to be the hero of a grand and epic story. To succeed in spite of the odds. And this clashes greatly when you put that same storyline in an MMO. And somehow you have to reconcile being the Chosen One with all the other Chosen Ones running around and doing the same quests for the same rewards. With EVE, there is none of that. You can be a plain ol' miner, or some other cog in a vast machine. Or you can be a pirate, and strike out on your own. Or whatever. You don't start out special, but maybe you can become special over time. And be part of a story that is talked about for years to come.
antihero 9y ago
Can you actually see battles happening now or is it still "get one updated frame every few minutes"? I remember back in the day when we had 1,000+ ships in a system attacking LV and basically you used to just sit there and hope that what you were doing was having any effect at all.
- kstrauser 9y ago
  It's realtime. You're flying spaceships around, targeting enemies, and getting shot at with the only speed limit being how quickly you can shift attention to the next important thing.
  - travisjungroth 9y ago
    There is a mechanic that when there are too many ships in one place, time slows down.
    - kstrauser 9y ago
      Sure, but it’s never extreme like the above poster described. That’s also only for large battles. Outside those, EVE is almost always in real-time.
      - antihero 9y ago
        That's pretty cool, ten years ago the only real "fun" in battles was dicking around on TeamSpeak.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo 9y ago
    What? There is a thing called time-dilation. They slow the game time down so they can handle it all. You'll be running at 10% of normal speed for large fights and it sucks.
kstrauser 9y ago
This is the one that does it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjTrPutt4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjTrPutt4k
fhood 9y ago
I dunno, that sounded like a whole lot of cooperation and strategy to me. I can barely go a round of counter strike without deciding that strats are for suckers.
2OEH8eoCRo 9y ago
That's the one that did it for me. 7o

by mrdmnd 9y ago

murderfs 9y ago

This is a more realistic version, IMO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmS9vcVNr5A

corobo 9y ago
GP "Oh man that looks so awesome!" Parent: "I'll stick to solitaire" The idea behind Eve is extremely appealing but damn if I'm not just done with people screaming into a microphone. I'll stick to reading the postmortems after interesting things happen
- Anderkent 9y ago
  I believe there's interesting gameplay in smaller groups, without all the screaming, but yeah, large conflicts are fun to read about and not necessarily fun to play.
- Mithaldu 9y ago
  The point you're missing, and what makes this funny, is that this is actually super rare. This isn't Call of Duty, you don't have children yelling random curse words at you while tea-bagging you. Voice comms in Eve is almost exclusively between allies you've been together with for a long time. As such, things getting loud is always either extremely exceptional, or fitting and unsurprising to the context. Both of these videos are accurate, and while the second one does happen, the former is the actual norm.
- pavel_lishin 9y ago
  > damn if I'm not just done with people screaming into a microphone. Aside from the huge time-sink that's involved in any MMO, I mostly don't want to have to have a part-time job playing politics. That's what kills it for me; I love that Eve Online exists, but I have zero interest whatsoever building a whole other parallel set of friendships, alliances, etc. outside of my current life. Even if they were the nicest antithesis of League of Legends chat, I just don't have the emotional energy to put into it.
  - chii 9y ago
    > I have zero interest whatsoever building a whole other parallel set of friendships, alliances, etc. outside of my current life. yes, some people call EVE their life, and their irl is just something to get money. It's certainly not for everyone.
  - ethbro 9y ago
    I haven't played in years, but last I did there was a huge range in engagement levels to have "fun". With one or two friends, I'd say one could have a blast pirating for a couple years. It's one of the higher doing_fun_things:total_time_playing ratios I've found in a multiplayer game. The balance is really well done. Two specialized smaller ships > one general larger ship. And coordinating on voicecoms after you've got the normal sequence of actions down doesn't sound that different than a sci-fi series. "Jumping. Two contacts. Found them on the belt 5. Miners, no escort. In position to warp disrupt. Popping bubble and web. Tackled. Jump, jump, jump." (Plan comes together, fireworks ensue) And in general, most people keep it in perspective. Hence "it's just internet spaceships" jokes.
brianwawok 9y ago
hahaha if you get bored skip to the last 30 seconds at least To be fair, not all corps are dysfunctional. I had some good times and no one was like that.
redler 9y ago
So...a lot of loud dudes. Do any women play this game?
- greymeister 9y ago
  Female are present in the leadership of several large organizations in Eve. You generally don't hear them screaming like children on mumble though.
- brainfire 9y ago
  The developer once noted that 96% of subscribers are male.
branchless 9y ago
Wow that put me off. A bunch of kidults who need to get a grip.

princeb 9y ago

i tried getting into it when alpha accounts went free to play. if all you have is about 1-2 unscheduled hours a week you could not find a worse game to play.

ivm 9y ago
All MMOs are not suitable for most adults because their content is calibrated towards teenagers who can play over 8 hours a day.

nmeofthestate 9y ago

Yes Eve is amazing to read about, but looking at it from the outside it seems like if you're not a huge ego, you're signing up to be a cog in a machine.

rhaps0dy 9y ago
Which suits a lot of people fine. So long as you get to participate in these massive battles... I've never played it though.
- sbov 9y ago
  The massive battles are pretty boring. They also last forever because they slow the game down to something like 10% speed to help the servers keep up. It's way more fun reading about them.
  - chii 9y ago
    massive battles are what makes it to the press, but the real fun is in small skirmishes in unconquerable space (wormhole space). The game mechanics prevents massive swarms - so you'll be fighting highly elite, small groups (in the order of 5-10), in small to medium sized ships. It takes skill, dedication, as well as some luck (since you can't tell who is in the "system" with you in wormhole space, unlike in regular space). You have to constantly do scan, and entrances and exists shift (so you _can_ get stuck with no way back). But that's the fun of it!
ansible 9y ago
Yes Eve is amazing to read about, but looking at it from the outside it seems like if you're not a huge ego, you're signing up to be a cog in a machine. That's one of the interesting things about EVE from a story perspective. For most games, you're the "Chosen One": the Dragonborn, the Master Chief, The One. You're supposed to be the hero of a grand and epic story. To succeed in spite of the odds. And this clashes greatly when you put that same storyline in an MMO. And somehow you have to reconcile being the Chosen One with all the other Chosen Ones running around and doing the same quests for the same rewards. With EVE, there is none of that. You can be a plain ol' miner, or some other cog in a vast machine. Or you can be a pirate, and strike out on your own. Or whatever. You don't start out special, but maybe you can become special over time. And be part of a story that is talked about for years to come.

antihero 9y ago

Can you actually see battles happening now or is it still "get one updated frame every few minutes"? I remember back in the day when we had 1,000+ ships in a system attacking LV and basically you used to just sit there and hope that what you were doing was having any effect at all.

kstrauser 9y ago
It's realtime. You're flying spaceships around, targeting enemies, and getting shot at with the only speed limit being how quickly you can shift attention to the next important thing.
- travisjungroth 9y ago
  There is a mechanic that when there are too many ships in one place, time slows down.
  - kstrauser 9y ago
    Sure, but it’s never extreme like the above poster described. That’s also only for large battles. Outside those, EVE is almost always in real-time.
    - antihero 9y ago
      That's pretty cool, ten years ago the only real "fun" in battles was dicking around on TeamSpeak.
- 2OEH8eoCRo 9y ago
  What? There is a thing called time-dilation. They slow the game time down so they can handle it all. You'll be running at 10% of normal speed for large fights and it sucks.

kstrauser 9y ago

This is the one that does it for me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjTrPutt4k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjTrPutt4k

fhood 9y ago

I dunno, that sounded like a whole lot of cooperation and strategy to me. I can barely go a round of counter strike without deciding that strats are for suckers.

2OEH8eoCRo 9y ago

That's the one that did it for me. 7o