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Wow, are we really just deleting comments from people we don't agree with? I haven't seen any insults here, just people commenting from a seemingly pro-Erdogan

by Joe-Z 9y ago

Wow, are we really just deleting comments from people we don't agree with? I haven't seen any insults here, just people commenting from a seemingly pro-Erdogan perspective. What's the reasoning behind that? EDIT: Specifically I'm referring to diminish's comment from ~1 hour ago.

diminish 9y ago
Sad part is that I'm not even pro-Erdogan. I vocally disagree and vote against most of his policies/approach etc. But people on this thread want to see a black and white picture conforming to their distorted vision and can't tolerate the reality as it has occurred. Sad. EDIT: here's the flagged comment: Downloading the app wasn't the only reason they are under arrest. The app mentioned isn't available to anyone, but could only be used if you were endorsed by 2 members of the US-based cleric Fethullah organization. It's only "one" of the reasons people are under arrest. Most of their logs of conversation, and with whom they spoke is the main reason why they are under suspicion. The app was used extensively during the military coup attempt, executed by the members of the Fethullah organization - which killed around 250 and wounded 2000-3000 civilians during last years military coup attempt. Read Sedat Ergin articles on hurriyet.com.tr if you truly want to get informed about the court case against the military coup attempt. He is a well respected investigative journalist (definitely not pro-Erdogan). [1] http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/sedat-ergin/darbe-saniklarinin-inkar-stratejisi-40577077 http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/sedat-ergin/darbe-sanikl...
- e12e 9y ago
  I don't see why the post was flagged without comment. That said, this: > The app mentioned isn't available to anyone, but could only be used if you were endorsed by 2 members of the US-based cleric Fethullah organization. Seems flat out wrong? Bylock isn't available in the Norwegian Google play store (or indeed anywhere now - it's been unpublished?), but appears to have been generally available?: https://www.appbrain.com/app/bylock%3A-secure-chat-talk/net.client.by.lock https://www.appbrain.com/app/bylock%3A-secure-chat-talk/net.... https://bylock-secure-chat-talk.droidinformer.org/de/ https://bylock-secure-chat-talk.droidinformer.org/de/ Note the top comment (troll): > COUP PLOTTER wrote > Should have just used Orbot any old xmpp chat client. Now we're all jail. See you next time :D > 13. Oktober 2016
1001101 9y ago
diminish's comment is based on reporting from a single source, Hurriyet. Based on the state of journalism in Turkey [1], I'd like to see corroboration from additional independent sources to feel confident that I'm being truly informed rather than the converse. [1] https://rsf.org/en/turkey https://rsf.org/en/turkey
- misja111 9y ago
  Right, additional independent sources would be nice. But it still doesn't justify deleting diminish's comment imo. I prefer to see both sides of the picture, not just the side that suits my own believe the best.
aurora72 9y ago
Did you think that mainstream media was on behalf of the people, folks? They are the paid workers of the government its just that they don't show it.

by Joe-Z 9y ago

diminish 9y ago

Sad part is that I'm not even pro-Erdogan. I vocally disagree and vote against most of his policies/approach etc. But people on this thread want to see a black and white picture conforming to their distorted vision and can't tolerate the reality as it has occurred. Sad. EDIT: here's the flagged comment: Downloading the app wasn't the only reason they are under arrest. The app mentioned isn't available to anyone, but could only be used if you were endorsed by 2 members of the US-based cleric Fethullah organization. It's only "one" of the reasons people are under arrest. Most of their logs of conversation, and with whom they spoke is the main reason why they are under suspicion. The app was used extensively during the military coup attempt, executed by the members of the Fethullah organization - which killed around 250 and wounded 2000-3000 civilians during last years military coup attempt. Read Sedat Ergin articles on hurriyet.com.tr if you truly want to get informed about the court case against the military coup attempt. He is a well respected investigative journalist (definitely not pro-Erdogan). [1] http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/sedat-ergin/darbe-saniklarinin-inkar-stratejisi-40577077 http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/sedat-ergin/darbe-sanikl...

e12e 9y ago
I don't see why the post was flagged without comment. That said, this: > The app mentioned isn't available to anyone, but could only be used if you were endorsed by 2 members of the US-based cleric Fethullah organization. Seems flat out wrong? Bylock isn't available in the Norwegian Google play store (or indeed anywhere now - it's been unpublished?), but appears to have been generally available?: https://www.appbrain.com/app/bylock%3A-secure-chat-talk/net.client.by.lock https://www.appbrain.com/app/bylock%3A-secure-chat-talk/net.... https://bylock-secure-chat-talk.droidinformer.org/de/ https://bylock-secure-chat-talk.droidinformer.org/de/ Note the top comment (troll): > COUP PLOTTER wrote > Should have just used Orbot any old xmpp chat client. Now we're all jail. See you next time :D > 13. Oktober 2016

1001101 9y ago

diminish's comment is based on reporting from a single source, Hurriyet. Based on the state of journalism in Turkey [1], I'd like to see corroboration from additional independent sources to feel confident that I'm being truly informed rather than the converse. [1] https://rsf.org/en/turkey https://rsf.org/en/turkey

misja111 9y ago
Right, additional independent sources would be nice. But it still doesn't justify deleting diminish's comment imo. I prefer to see both sides of the picture, not just the side that suits my own believe the best.

aurora72 9y ago

Did you think that mainstream media was on behalf of the people, folks? They are the paid workers of the government its just that they don't show it.