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> It's been fairly apparent to me that science doesn't really counter religious belief. Show me how one multiplies fishes. There are 2 differents questions wh
by camus2 9y ago
> It's been fairly apparent to me that science doesn't really counter religious belief.
Show me how one multiplies fishes.
There are 2 differents questions when it comes to religion.
One is philosophical : "Does a moral god exist?"
The other is historical: "Who wrote the bible or the coran the torah and co, and do these prophets who claim they have seen or talked to the divine told the truth?"
These are 2 separated questions. Science obviously can't answer the first one, it's purely philosophical, but science can absolutely answer the second one.
Finally, a last question. Does following a religion means believing in "god" or believing in the vision of god from another man?
edit: I'm focusing on what I know, AKA Abrahamic religions, and I'm not talking about the morality of religious texts nor whatever wisdom they contain. So don't take my comment as a personal attack against your faith.
- js8 9y ago> Show me how one multiplies fishes. Not to detract from your argument, I think you're generally correct, but in this case: Two fish and 5 loafs of bread are enough to start a fish farm. Of course, I doubt this is what really happened, but this particular miracle is very easy to explain..
- camus2 9y agoThis is the correct answer.
- humanrebar 9y agoCare to explain it, then? I'm not sure what the point of the answer is since the miracle referenced happened in the course of one meeting. A fish farm wasn't in the picture.
- api 9y agoThose objections (fishes, etc.) only apply to literalism.
- lemagedurage 9y agoIf a superior entity created the earth including humanity, then surely it could make an exception to the rules as humanity studies it. Like using cheat codes in The Sims.
- humanrebar 9y agoWhy make exceptions to the rules to aid science? I don't know why God couldn't take premises (fundamental laws of nature) and follow them to their conclusions. Where are cheat codes needed?
- NotAChristian 9y ago>Like using cheat codes in The Sims. Like that time when Moses hacked the Matrix to open the sea?
- simonh 9y agoI was making an observation of what happens in the real world. I've never once witnessed someone be persuaded to ditch their religious beliefs due to a scientific argument, therefore it seems to me that science doesn't in practice counter religious belief. I was not making a statement about my own opinion. I'm sure you can pout forth powerful arguments against religion, so can I. I'm just saying that in my experience, they don't work against religious believers. Does your experience differ?