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Honestly, my wife and I had no previous exposure to leaks besides "there will be something expensive". And then it felt like the real Apple magic. We sat there

by geff82 9y ago

Honestly, my wife and I had no previous exposure to leaks besides "there will be something expensive". And then it felt like the real Apple magic. We sat there and at every product presented we said "Wow, we want this. NOW!". While the iPhone 8 still felt quite normal, the iPhone X absolutely killed it for us. And let's not begin with the eSim-Watch... which is so SciFi that I wanted it back in 1990 when I was still 8 years old. We have to appreciate that there is more to life than revolution, Apple "simple" does evolution at a very high level and in the end, they lead the competitors. Today, we could see the stuff that Samsung and others will get right in a year or two. When Apple already presents their next evolution... It is not about having the right specs, but the right concept. I already know the friend who will come to me tomorrow that his HTC has and 8 core processor while Apple has only six. The point is: it is all useless without the whole package being perfect. And while Apple is freaking expensive upfront, the peace of mind is worth it.

kingnothing 9y ago
Similar watches with LTE have been available from Samsung and others for years. Objectively speaking, Apple's latest watch isn't anything special.
- muninn_ 9y ago
  That's like saying the Model T was built a long time ago, so a new Ferrari isn't anything special.
- mockindignant 9y ago
  It's special in that it makes lots of money unlike really just about every other smartwatch.
- yodsanklai 9y ago
  and the $60 xiaomi 4K TV box has been around for a year...
  - synicalx 9y ago
    The same Xiaomi that snuck spyware onto their phones a year ago?
- geff82 9y ago
  Objectively speaking, no other consumer tech company grooms and refines their products do much as Apple. (Only got my first iPhone last year after being so hackerish minded as to avoid ever using them... could not be happier)
  - dsego 9y ago
    You meant to say grooms their customers.
- valuearb 9y ago
  Lol, Samsung's watches still don't have the value and usability of the first Apple Watch.
- synicalx 9y ago
  But Samsung hasn't sold it anywhere near as well as Apple. Honestly, I don't care about watches all that much so I don't go out and look for smartwatch related news, but even as a bystander I can't help but to hear all about Apple's new watch whereas your comment is literally the first I've ever heard of Samsung having something similar.
nunez 9y ago
I'm glad you enjoyed it but I should have you know that Apple is using a Samsung display and Samsung has been leading the pack in OLED display technology for at least the last 5 years. In fact, the S8 has a crisper screen than the X with its Super Retina display (570 ppi vs 471 ppi)
- jskopek 9y ago
  To quote the person you just replied to: "I already know the friend who will come to me tomorrow that his HTC has and 8 core processor while Apple has only six. The point is: it is all useless without the whole package being perfect."
  - voltagex_ 9y ago
    I'm an Android user for years now but I still find it embarrassing that it takes 8 cores to make an Android phone run smoothly.
    - burnte 9y ago
      It doesn't. I've been an Android user since the Nexus One. Android ran amazing on that phone, on pretty much every Nexus phone, and on my Pixel. It ran like crap on the LG G2x, a phone so flawed they lost a class action lawsuit about it. It ran mediocre on my Galaxy S2 and S4, but much better once I used Cyanogenmod. It ran beautifully on my Moto X Gen 1. Android, just like iOS or any other OS, requires non-crap hardware (not amazing, just well designed) and an OEM that doesn't bloat it up with tons of crap. Newer versions of iOS run like crap on older iPhones, because the OS is designed for newer hardware. Android runs beautifully on well designed hardware, even inexpensive hardware like the Moto G. It runs great without bloated skins and shovelware that "adds value".
      - randomsearch 9y ago
        Being a long-time iPhone user and recently using Android for work (high-spec Nexus models) I can safely say that Android has a _long_ way to go both in terms of responsiveness and design. It baffles me that Google are so bad at this.
y_u_no_rust 9y ago
I'm sorry man but this is just weird
noen 9y ago
I was an iPhone user from the 3GS until my 6+ finally bit the bullet, and refused to give up the headphone jack. I genuinely love the iPhone and MacBooks. I've been using the Galaxy S8+ since launch. And the Note 8 is, by any definition, as good or better than the iPhone X. If you haven't used a Samsung phone lately, go try an S8 or Note 8. They have "the package" down. It just works, and doesn't require a PC or iTunes. I don't care about speeds and feeds. I care about how the phone operates on a daily basis. iPhone X has FaceID and pin# to login. Samsung has face, retina, touch and pin options. The Note 8 is cheaper, with expandable storage, a higher density display (with the same white balance adjustment), stylus, side-by-side applications, a headphone jack, samsung pay, and NFC. (There are probably many more, but these are things I use on a daily basis, or very frequently in the real world) The iPhone has iMessage and Facetime. Seriously, it's worth a sniff of the other side of the pond. It took me 2 hours to transfer everything - contacts, media, apps. And another day to get the UI sorted (there's even an "ios mode" for the launcher that acts almost exactly like the ios interface). I still use an iphone often for work and it's honestly painful going back to it, there are so many little annoying papercut experiences.
- plaguuuuuu 9y ago
  On the other side of the fence here. I've been on vanilla Google phones since the Android Nexus. I have a Nexus 6P now, which was the flagship of that generation. Between Google knowing my porn fetishes and the increasing number of issues & bizarre bugs (severe battery degradation, performance issues during normal usage, random freezes, photos occasionally not saving properly and getting corrupted) plus no security updates after 2 years, I've just about had it.
  - randomsearch 9y ago
    I can confirm that Android has all these problems. I use both. iOS is getting worse, but it's still an order of magnitude less buggy (in terms of crashes etc)
  - cdkee 9y ago
    I had a 6p and ditched it for the S8+. Never looked back, it's a night and day difference. Google/Huawei should be ashamed for the 6p.
hesarenu 9y ago
Do you how many I have triggered the hidden side bottom panels while browsing, scrolling. iOS is far from been perfect.
- jaquers 9y ago
  Funny, I could never trigger it when I wanted to. The method is simple though; start your swipe from below the edge of the screen. For you, maybe don't swipe from the bottom of the screen, that's what the scroll acceleration is for. ;D
  - hesarenu 9y ago
    I have triggered the side contact panels as well. Hidden panels would always have these. They should have added a navigation controls like Android.
burnte 9y ago
I'm not normally a shit-on-Apple/Android-is-amazing guy, I'm actually typing this on a MacBook Pro right now. But let's reel it in for a moment. Edge to edge screen, Galaxy S8. Smart watch: Pebble, Galaxy Gear, ZenWatch, etc. SmartWatch with cell service that isn't huge: Galaxy Gear S2 3G (frankly, I think better looking than the Apple Watch). Wireless charging: YEARS go in dozens of Android phones. The only thing announced today that Apple very well may have done "right" is the face recognition. Nothing else today was new or r/evolutionary. Yes, Apple frequently does things right that other people have failed on. The iPhone truly revolutionized the smartphone, the iPad made the tablet a non-crap market, iPod was fantastic, but let's not pretend everything today was iPhone 1 level amazing.
- hvidgaard 9y ago
  > Yes, Apple frequently does things right that other people have failed on. That is exactly what non tech people want. Things that just works. There is an enormous market of people that don't want cutting edge, but reliable and long lasting tech. Apple fits that way more than Android. That is their force. It is entirely within their philosophy to not include wireless charging unless it is their own they back for a long time, or a market standard emerges. Arguably since Ikea included Qi chargers in a lot of their affordable furniture, that made Qi chargers the emergent standard.
  - cdkee 9y ago
    Then why are they still using Lightning instead of USB-C, when that's all they have on their new Macbooks?
    - cbhl 9y ago
      Because of all the docks and alarm clocks that still only expose a lightning port. It will be super easy to support the USB-C Macbooks out of box -- they just swap out the USB-A-to-lightning cable and charger in the box with a USB-C-to-lightning cable and charger.
      - 9y ago
puranjay 9y ago
I'll admit that I had written off Apple in the last few years. Felt that they couldn't get their mojo back after Jobs' departure. This felt very different. The iPhone X is the first iPhone I've seen in a while that I want. Same for Apple Watch. I'd written it off but the eSim makes it a very alluring buy
roryisok 9y ago
> Apple is freaking expensive upfront, the peace of mind is worth it. Carrying a device worth $1000 around with me all day would not give me peace of mind. Quite the opposite. I'd rather carry a battered hand me down and not feel sick in my stomach if it falls off arm of the couch

by geff82 9y ago

kingnothing 9y ago

Similar watches with LTE have been available from Samsung and others for years. Objectively speaking, Apple's latest watch isn't anything special.

muninn_ 9y ago
That's like saying the Model T was built a long time ago, so a new Ferrari isn't anything special.
mockindignant 9y ago
It's special in that it makes lots of money unlike really just about every other smartwatch.
yodsanklai 9y ago
and the $60 xiaomi 4K TV box has been around for a year...
- synicalx 9y ago
  The same Xiaomi that snuck spyware onto their phones a year ago?
geff82 9y ago
Objectively speaking, no other consumer tech company grooms and refines their products do much as Apple. (Only got my first iPhone last year after being so hackerish minded as to avoid ever using them... could not be happier)
- dsego 9y ago
  You meant to say grooms their customers.
valuearb 9y ago
Lol, Samsung's watches still don't have the value and usability of the first Apple Watch.
synicalx 9y ago
But Samsung hasn't sold it anywhere near as well as Apple. Honestly, I don't care about watches all that much so I don't go out and look for smartwatch related news, but even as a bystander I can't help but to hear all about Apple's new watch whereas your comment is literally the first I've ever heard of Samsung having something similar.

nunez 9y ago

I'm glad you enjoyed it but I should have you know that Apple is using a Samsung display and Samsung has been leading the pack in OLED display technology for at least the last 5 years. In fact, the S8 has a crisper screen than the X with its Super Retina display (570 ppi vs 471 ppi)

jskopek 9y ago
To quote the person you just replied to: "I already know the friend who will come to me tomorrow that his HTC has and 8 core processor while Apple has only six. The point is: it is all useless without the whole package being perfect."
- voltagex_ 9y ago
  I'm an Android user for years now but I still find it embarrassing that it takes 8 cores to make an Android phone run smoothly.
  - burnte 9y ago
    It doesn't. I've been an Android user since the Nexus One. Android ran amazing on that phone, on pretty much every Nexus phone, and on my Pixel. It ran like crap on the LG G2x, a phone so flawed they lost a class action lawsuit about it. It ran mediocre on my Galaxy S2 and S4, but much better once I used Cyanogenmod. It ran beautifully on my Moto X Gen 1. Android, just like iOS or any other OS, requires non-crap hardware (not amazing, just well designed) and an OEM that doesn't bloat it up with tons of crap. Newer versions of iOS run like crap on older iPhones, because the OS is designed for newer hardware. Android runs beautifully on well designed hardware, even inexpensive hardware like the Moto G. It runs great without bloated skins and shovelware that "adds value".
    - randomsearch 9y ago
      Being a long-time iPhone user and recently using Android for work (high-spec Nexus models) I can safely say that Android has a _long_ way to go both in terms of responsiveness and design. It baffles me that Google are so bad at this.

y_u_no_rust 9y ago

I'm sorry man but this is just weird

noen 9y ago

I was an iPhone user from the 3GS until my 6+ finally bit the bullet, and refused to give up the headphone jack. I genuinely love the iPhone and MacBooks. I've been using the Galaxy S8+ since launch. And the Note 8 is, by any definition, as good or better than the iPhone X. If you haven't used a Samsung phone lately, go try an S8 or Note 8. They have "the package" down. It just works, and doesn't require a PC or iTunes. I don't care about speeds and feeds. I care about how the phone operates on a daily basis. iPhone X has FaceID and pin# to login. Samsung has face, retina, touch and pin options. The Note 8 is cheaper, with expandable storage, a higher density display (with the same white balance adjustment), stylus, side-by-side applications, a headphone jack, samsung pay, and NFC. (There are probably many more, but these are things I use on a daily basis, or very frequently in the real world) The iPhone has iMessage and Facetime. Seriously, it's worth a sniff of the other side of the pond. It took me 2 hours to transfer everything - contacts, media, apps. And another day to get the UI sorted (there's even an "ios mode" for the launcher that acts almost exactly like the ios interface). I still use an iphone often for work and it's honestly painful going back to it, there are so many little annoying papercut experiences.

plaguuuuuu 9y ago
On the other side of the fence here. I've been on vanilla Google phones since the Android Nexus. I have a Nexus 6P now, which was the flagship of that generation. Between Google knowing my porn fetishes and the increasing number of issues & bizarre bugs (severe battery degradation, performance issues during normal usage, random freezes, photos occasionally not saving properly and getting corrupted) plus no security updates after 2 years, I've just about had it.
- randomsearch 9y ago
  I can confirm that Android has all these problems. I use both. iOS is getting worse, but it's still an order of magnitude less buggy (in terms of crashes etc)
- cdkee 9y ago
  I had a 6p and ditched it for the S8+. Never looked back, it's a night and day difference. Google/Huawei should be ashamed for the 6p.

hesarenu 9y ago

Do you how many I have triggered the hidden side bottom panels while browsing, scrolling. iOS is far from been perfect.

jaquers 9y ago
Funny, I could never trigger it when I wanted to. The method is simple though; start your swipe from below the edge of the screen. For you, maybe don't swipe from the bottom of the screen, that's what the scroll acceleration is for. ;D
- hesarenu 9y ago
  I have triggered the side contact panels as well. Hidden panels would always have these. They should have added a navigation controls like Android.

burnte 9y ago

I'm not normally a shit-on-Apple/Android-is-amazing guy, I'm actually typing this on a MacBook Pro right now. But let's reel it in for a moment. Edge to edge screen, Galaxy S8. Smart watch: Pebble, Galaxy Gear, ZenWatch, etc. SmartWatch with cell service that isn't huge: Galaxy Gear S2 3G (frankly, I think better looking than the Apple Watch). Wireless charging: YEARS go in dozens of Android phones. The only thing announced today that Apple very well may have done "right" is the face recognition. Nothing else today was new or r/evolutionary. Yes, Apple frequently does things right that other people have failed on. The iPhone truly revolutionized the smartphone, the iPad made the tablet a non-crap market, iPod was fantastic, but let's not pretend everything today was iPhone 1 level amazing.

hvidgaard 9y ago
> Yes, Apple frequently does things right that other people have failed on. That is exactly what non tech people want. Things that just works. There is an enormous market of people that don't want cutting edge, but reliable and long lasting tech. Apple fits that way more than Android. That is their force. It is entirely within their philosophy to not include wireless charging unless it is their own they back for a long time, or a market standard emerges. Arguably since Ikea included Qi chargers in a lot of their affordable furniture, that made Qi chargers the emergent standard.
- cdkee 9y ago
  Then why are they still using Lightning instead of USB-C, when that's all they have on their new Macbooks?
  - cbhl 9y ago
    Because of all the docks and alarm clocks that still only expose a lightning port. It will be super easy to support the USB-C Macbooks out of box -- they just swap out the USB-A-to-lightning cable and charger in the box with a USB-C-to-lightning cable and charger.
    - 9y ago

puranjay 9y ago

I'll admit that I had written off Apple in the last few years. Felt that they couldn't get their mojo back after Jobs' departure. This felt very different. The iPhone X is the first iPhone I've seen in a while that I want. Same for Apple Watch. I'd written it off but the eSim makes it a very alluring buy

roryisok 9y ago

> Apple is freaking expensive upfront, the peace of mind is worth it. Carrying a device worth $1000 around with me all day would not give me peace of mind. Quite the opposite. I'd rather carry a battered hand me down and not feel sick in my stomach if it falls off arm of the couch