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Which begs the question: Would Jobs have delivered this? note: I personally say no. The form factor is, with all it's curves, a failure for creating UI/UX tha
by walru 9y ago
Which begs the question:
Would Jobs have delivered this?
note:
I personally say no. The form factor is, with all it's curves, a failure for creating UI/UX that feels complete. It's going to force more people to go Android first with their software development. When Android starts getting newer and better software more frequently the sea change will continue to widen and even long lasting fans will want to try something else.
- saagarjha 9y agoIt only begs the question because you decided to bring it up.
- qq66 9y agoProbably not, but trying to run the company by the philosophy of "Would Jobs have done this" is impossible, since if emulating Steve Jobs' brain was possible, he wouldn't have been a unique talent.
- amigoingtodie 9y agoEh. The ethos died, too. The protruding camera on the back of recent models would be considered unacceptable.
- itsdrewmiller 9y agoPeople go iOS first because iOS has a much better market for paid apps - if Objective C wasn't enough to discourage this approach, I doubt a notch in the UI will be.
- sneak 9y agohttps://begthequestion.info https://begthequestion.info
- umanwizard 9y agoOn what authority does the author of this site tell me what things mean in my own native language?
- bryanrasmussen 9y agoThe author did not lay claim to authority but they did give a reason for taking the time to tell you what things mean in probably their own native language; that reason was laid out in the second paragraph of the section with the heading 'What it is not'
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- kbutler 9y agoWell, "beg the question" is a translation from latin - petitio principii - so pedants could say it isn't from your native language (unless you meant latin). Language evolves - things that start out as misunderstandings or errors become informal usage, then dominant usage, then the correct way. Others stay misunderstandings or errors. It pays to learn the correct way so you sound educated as you speak, and so other educated people don't automatically discount what you say, but there's little benefit in attempting to correct others. That said, mis-using erudite words or phrases spoils the effect.
- Dylan16807 9y agoYou are allowed to use the same words as an idiom while not using that idiom. The words make sense as a non-idiom. It is not a misuse to do this.
- porkloin 9y ago>Language evolves - things that start out as misunderstandings or errors become informal usage, then dominant usage, then the correct way. Yes, language does evolve. For example, American English has evolved in such a way that "beg the question" now means "raise the question" to the vast majority of people in the year 2017. Forgive me, but I think you're in the minority of people who bristle at the contemporary usage of this phrase, which makes you come off as incredibly pedantic.
- kbutler 9y agoPlease note that I responded to the "by what authority" comment, not the "begs the question" comment... The reason to care about official meanings is to avoid sounding uneducated. I literally could care less about "begs the question". The formal use can be depreciated - we're not likely to staunch that floe. But irregardless of my feelings, people who flaunt the official meaning and right "begs the question" in the increasingly common usage have the wrong affect - they sound like they're putting on heirs - "raises" or "brings up" each sound more naturist. (Yes, that was fun. I hope you like it, too!)
- mypalmike 9y agoThis isn't reddit.
- hellofunk 9y ago> It's going to force more people to go Android first with their software development. I don't understand this comment. What do "all its curves", as you say, have to do with iOS developers suddenly preferring Android? The iOS App Store has approximately a 7x revenue potential vs. Android's store, why would a developer abandon that just because of a new phone's form factor? There have been many new form factors in iOS devices over the last years, and that hasn't swayed anyone.
- nsnick 9y agoI don't think "beg the question" means what you think it means. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question Here is another explanation http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/begs-the-question-update http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/begs-the-...
- dragonwriter 9y agoNot only does it (descriptively by usage, whatever pedants might prefer) mean exactly what it was used upthread to mean, that usage is structurally distinct from an impossible to confuse with the usage pedants prefer (and helps the pedant-preferred version make sense.) That's the TL;DR version, the full rant is available at: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13708712 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13708712
- fasquoika 9y agoIt's even on the linked wikipedia entry: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Modern_usage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question#Modern_us...
- nsnick 9y agoAll that post says is that it is common to use it incorrectly, which it is, but we should not encourage bad habits.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> All that post says is that it is common to use it incorrectly I'm not sure if “that post” refers to the grandparent or the one linked from it, but in either case you are incorrect. There are several other things addressed beyond frequency of usage.
- alimw 9y agoOK if that's as much sense as an anti-pedant can make, I'm gonna side with the pedants.