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Any reasonable developer will likely just use the safe area (which excludes the notch) to display video, photos or games.

btown 9y ago
Is Apple a reasonable developer for the built-in media apps and Safari full screen video?
- haikuginger 9y ago
  The aspect ratio of the screen is wider than 16:9, so full-screen 16:9 video will be boxed in on the other dimension first.
saagarjha 9y ago
Apple specifically says not to do this in their updated Human Interface Guidelines.
- boondaburrah 9y ago
  Just when I thought we had finally kissed "Title-Safe Area" goodbye...
- wlesieutre 9y ago
  If you use Safari to view a web page in landscape mode, is the majority of the left edge of the page just chopped off? Or did they make an exception for that, since most webpages are not specially designed for each and every device that Apple makes? This is a weird UI problem and I'm looking forward to seeing how Apple addresses it in each of the built-in apps.
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    No, the text stays in the center portion only. The guidelines say that content covers the screen in landscape unless it’s text, in which case it’s inset.
    - odbol_ 9y ago
      So those stupid share icons on the side of news sites are going to be completely inaccessible?
  - drewolbrich 9y ago
    It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/yXA0Reg.png http://i.imgur.com/yXA0Reg.png
    - jpeg_hero 9y ago
      Done. I’m out. I’ve bought every top level upgrade for the last 10 years of upgrade cycles. But now I am out. No new “rose gold” status for me. :(
    - addicted 9y ago
      Wow that's messed up. I didn't realize it extended beyond video. On the plus side it's only gonna be an easy software upgrade to fox this for video and the web although it remains to be seen whether apple will accept they're wrong.
- jandrese 9y ago
  Apple is the worst about not following their own Human Interface Guidelines.
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    Do you have an example of where they don’t follow their guidelines? In my experience they’re pretty good about it; it’s Google that can’t get it together and follow Material Design or whatever their new guide is.
    - jandrese 9y ago
      The iTunes app is a notorious example.
- dlubarov 9y ago
  What part of the guidelines are you referring to? [1] says "Adhere to the safe area and layout margins defined by UIKit", and the graphics show a "safe area" which excludes the notch at the top. [1] https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/visual-design/adaptivity-and-layout/ https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/v...
  - saagarjha 9y ago
    It’s part of the new WWDC videos they posted today. Let me see if I can find a link to them.
emersonrsantos 9y ago
Good luck getting your app rejected.

btown 9y ago

Is Apple a reasonable developer for the built-in media apps and Safari full screen video?

haikuginger 9y ago
The aspect ratio of the screen is wider than 16:9, so full-screen 16:9 video will be boxed in on the other dimension first.

saagarjha 9y ago

Apple specifically says not to do this in their updated Human Interface Guidelines.

boondaburrah 9y ago
Just when I thought we had finally kissed "Title-Safe Area" goodbye...
wlesieutre 9y ago
If you use Safari to view a web page in landscape mode, is the majority of the left edge of the page just chopped off? Or did they make an exception for that, since most webpages are not specially designed for each and every device that Apple makes? This is a weird UI problem and I'm looking forward to seeing how Apple addresses it in each of the built-in apps.
- saagarjha 9y ago
  No, the text stays in the center portion only. The guidelines say that content covers the screen in landscape unless it’s text, in which case it’s inset.
  - odbol_ 9y ago
    So those stupid share icons on the side of news sites are going to be completely inaccessible?
- drewolbrich 9y ago
  It looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/yXA0Reg.png http://i.imgur.com/yXA0Reg.png
  - jpeg_hero 9y ago
    Done. I’m out. I’ve bought every top level upgrade for the last 10 years of upgrade cycles. But now I am out. No new “rose gold” status for me. :(
  - addicted 9y ago
    Wow that's messed up. I didn't realize it extended beyond video. On the plus side it's only gonna be an easy software upgrade to fox this for video and the web although it remains to be seen whether apple will accept they're wrong.
jandrese 9y ago
Apple is the worst about not following their own Human Interface Guidelines.
- saagarjha 9y ago
  Do you have an example of where they don’t follow their guidelines? In my experience they’re pretty good about it; it’s Google that can’t get it together and follow Material Design or whatever their new guide is.
  - jandrese 9y ago
    The iTunes app is a notorious example.
dlubarov 9y ago
What part of the guidelines are you referring to? [1] says "Adhere to the safe area and layout margins defined by UIKit", and the graphics show a "safe area" which excludes the notch at the top. [1] https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/visual-design/adaptivity-and-layout/ https://developer.apple.com/ios/human-interface-guidelines/v...
- saagarjha 9y ago
  It’s part of the new WWDC videos they posted today. Let me see if I can find a link to them.

emersonrsantos 9y ago

Good luck getting your app rejected.