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I cannot get around the missing headphone jack. My headphones cost more than this new iPhone :(
by einrealist 9y ago
I cannot get around the missing headphone jack. My headphones cost more than this new iPhone :(
- sunsetMurk 9y agoditto - I'm fearing dongles in all of our futures.
- fnordsensei 9y agoThey're clearly banking on wireless chargers becoming mainstream and ubiquitous, leaving the lightning connector for headphones. The dongle madness seems less mad if you can charge all your doodads with the one watchacallit.
- mcphage 9y ago> They're clearly banking on wireless chargers becoming mainstream and ubiquitous, leaving the lightning connector for headphones. Well, true, but they're also banking on wireless headphones.
- MBCook 9y agoHave you tried AirPods? Or the Beats headphones that have the same wireless chip? I think they might be right. I never cared about wireless headphones until I tried AirPods and there're so incredibly convenient that I use them all the time now. Now I understand why so many people said wireless headphones were amazing.
- mcphage 9y ago> Have you tried AirPods? Or the Beats headphones that have the same wireless chip? I have not. I like the design, and hate cables, they're just a bit more money than I'd like to spend on headphones right now. When the price drops, I'll check them out.
- snom380 9y agoIs the sound quality of the lightning to headphone jack adapter inferior to the built-in DAC of previous models?
- kuschku 9y agoI’d think the problem is in having to carry an adapter with you all the time, which is easy to forget.
- naravara 9y agoI just left mine plugged into the headphone connector on the headphones. I briefly considered keeping a rubber band on them to tie to adapter to on the rare occasions when I needed to plug it into something else, but it wasn't actually a big issue for me. Alternatively, they also have bluetooth transmitters that plug into the jack on your headphones now that you can use. But I don't know what the battery life of UI convenience is on those. I switched to the Beats X for listening on my iPhone and have never been happier. The occasional frustration of not charging my headphones pales in comparison to the everyday frustrations of untangling wires all the time.
- kuschku 9y agoDisclaimer: I do not own, or use, i Devices, and refuse to buy any laptop > 700€, or phone > 250€. I personally use my Sennheiser headphones on the PC, but also on the phone, and elsewhere. I got them from my parents when I was young, and, just like my parents used their top-of-the-line sennheiser headphones their entire life, I plan on using mine for the next 60 years, and I’ve got one single set of them. So leaving an adapter plugged in isn’t optimal, nor is buying new headphones. Because, who are we kidding, in 60 years lightning and USB will be long gone, but 3.5mm Klincke will still exist.
- mtaksrud 9y agoWhy don't you just get a set of headphones (https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1adac https://www.sony.com/electronics/headband-headphones/mdr-1ad...) with a lightning connector and a built in DAC?
- plandis 9y agoIs the DAC even good enough in the iPhone at that point? Even if you had a straight jack audiophile headphones are probably not getting much benefit over, say, Bose headphones are they?
- einrealist 9y agoThe internal DAC is good enough when I am on my feet. Its more about stability and convenience than sound quality in this situation. Its inconvenient to carry an additional adapter which gets accidently disconnected more easily than a jack. I use an external DAC (Beyerdynamic A200p) when I use my notebook or my iPhone stationary. Edit: I use Shure SE846 as headphones.
- adrr 9y agoDoes a DAC even matter? Would love to see blind test showing they make a difference.
- binaryblitz 9y agoDo you know what a DAC is? They "make a difference" by allowing you to analog headphones. So more so "required"...
- adrr 9y agoYes thread is about quality of DAC not if a DAC is required.
- anthonybsd 9y agoDo headphones even matter after a certain price point? http://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.4984044 http://asa.scitation.org/doi/10.1121/1.4984044
- adrr 9y agoHeadphones sound different. Open air ones, closed, planar etc. Don't all DACs sound the same like amplifiers(unless its a tube)?
- BurningFrog 9y agoIt wasn't the only reason I switched to a Pixel after 10 iPhone years, but it probably was what made the decision so easy.
- saagarjha 9y agoRumors say that Pixel 2 is dropping the jack as well, so it looks like many manufacturers are following suit.
- dmix 9y agoI'd be okay if they removed the headphone jack if the box came with 2x USB-C headphone jack converters (for when I naturally lose the first one). And they sell them everywhere for $5-10 at most. If I had to go to an Apple store every time I lost my headphones and had to pay $20 for a new converter I'd go crazy. And I heard they don't even come with a free one with new iPhone's? (I could be wrong here) This is the real core of the problem to me... they have to make legacy support extremely seamless after making an extreme early adopter product transition to wireless headphone tech. At least with the lighting chargers they are everywhere and cheap.
- saagarjha 9y agoiPhone 7 comes with a pair of Lightning EarPhones and a Lightning to 3.5 mm jack adapter.
- komali2 9y agoAre those the "earpods" or whatever? Since they started making those, I have thought of them as absolute garbage. The sound quality is terrible, they don't block any external audio, they constantly fall out. Maybe I just have stupid shaped ears or something, but I have always thought as apple-brand "earpods" as gilded shit. Apologies for the rough language, I just cannot express strongly enough how much I despise those "earbuds."
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- briandear 9y agoI'm still looking for a place to plug in my expensive 5mb SCSI drive.
- zeveb 9y agoThe difference, of course, is that while a SCSI drive is out-of-date, a headphone jack is not; it is, in fact, superior in every way to a Bluetooth audio connexion.
- matt4077 9y agoThe headphone jack isn't superior in the requires-plugging-in-way. It's also analog and therefore lossy.
- shard 9y agoAudio going to the wireless earbuds will require another round of lossy compression and decompression. And I'm sure we all remember what they said about doing lossy compression and decompression multiple times...
- brailsafe 9y agoThat's going to require a few adapters.
- anthonybsd 9y agoI'm sorry, but if you have headphones of such grade why are you sticking them into phones in the first place? As opposed to something like Astell and Kern offerings?
- einrealist 9y agoExternal DACs are inconvenient when I just walk around. Also the iPhone DACs are good enough when I am mobile. There is almost always noise around me anyway, even if the IEMs are good at isolation. The reason to buy these expensive headphones is not only sound quality, but build quality. Before I bought better IEMs, normal / cheap in-ear headphones lasted like 3 to 6 months.
- anthonybsd 9y agoYou should definitely look into Astell and Kern then. They are mp3 players with their own music service with audiophile-grade outputs.
- PeppermintGrade 9y agoI think there is already a case you can buy for the previous iPhone which has a headphone jack included.
- reaperducer 9y agoHow's that floppy drive working out for ya?