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This would be great. I have a 2014 Volt and I love-ish it. I live close enough to the office that and can charge in both locations so I've gotten up to 5000MPG.

This would be great. I have a 2014 Volt and I love-ish it. I live close enough to the office that and can charge in both locations so I've gotten up to 5000MPG. I'd like to buy a more luxury electric car but refuse to drive that weird blue embossed BMW. nb4 Wut about Tesla? I ain't made of money, son.

tachyonbeam 9y ago
You can get a used Model S for about 45K. Still not cheap, but AFAIK the maintenance costs are quite low.
- sremani 9y ago
  When it comes to maintenance there is not much day light between a Volt and any Tesla Model.
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  - odammit 9y ago
    There is not much at all, there is a big different I would assume in service quality though. My Volt has been in Chevy service for over a month with a failed transmission. That is where the "love-ish" comes from. ^ Sample size: 1
    - cmrdporcupine 9y ago
      Yikes. Get on the phone with your Volt Ambassador and yell. From what I've read the problem with GM & EVs is the huge gap between the excellent engineering quality of the product and the crappy quality of their dealerships. I'd say get your car out of that dealership and into one that has a better track record with EVs and make sure GM corporate hears about it. (Also a Volt owner)
      - odammit 9y ago
        Is there such thing as Volt Ambassador?! I have got in touch w GM they are equally slow...
        cmrdporcupine 9y ago
        Well at least up here in Canada there are and pretty sure they at least used to have them down there. I got a call from mine a month or so after purchase, just to check on me and see how happy I was.
- odammit 9y ago
  I suffer from "nicest shit syndrome" (read: sucker) which means if you offer me a Mercedes with a few options to upgrade I'll just do it. When I priced out and test drove an S it was over 100k. Edit: Just repriced, 107k w/o the speedracer package (just the 100 kWh)
josefresco 9y ago
You can't afford a Tesla, but can afford a Mercedes Benz and considered a BMW? - huh.
- robterrell 9y ago
  MB B250e lease is around $400/mo. BMW i3 lease is under $300 right now. Tesla lease starts at $1,000.
  - toomuchtodo 9y ago
    Knock about $200 a month off the Tesla lease for TCO based on Delta between electricity cost in petroleum fuel cost. Edit: i'm wrong. See below. Edit 2: In quite a few places, you can get time of day metering, where you pay lower rates for electricity at night. In Chicago, I pay $0.01/kwh between midnight and 5am; its essentially free to charge my Model S (it's slightly more at my place in Tampa, ~$0.06/kwh at all hours).
    - italophil 9y ago
      Both the B250e and i3 are electric as well. The B250e actually uses a motor from Tesla.
      - toomuchtodo 9y ago
        My mistake! Thanks for correcting me.
    - fps 9y ago
      The national average cost for gas is $2.67/gallon, Electricity $0.12/kwh. Based entirely on fuel costs, the Model S 85 costs $0.04/mile and the 20 mpg BMW M4 costs $0.13/mile. In order to save $200/month on fuel with the tesla, you'd have to drive 2200 miles a month. In the area I live, where gas is cheaper than average and electricity is almost twice as expensive, that number is 5000 miles/month.
      - 9y ago

tachyonbeam 9y ago

You can get a used Model S for about 45K. Still not cheap, but AFAIK the maintenance costs are quite low.

sremani 9y ago
When it comes to maintenance there is not much day light between a Volt and any Tesla Model.
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- odammit 9y ago
  There is not much at all, there is a big different I would assume in service quality though. My Volt has been in Chevy service for over a month with a failed transmission. That is where the "love-ish" comes from. ^ Sample size: 1
  - cmrdporcupine 9y ago
    Yikes. Get on the phone with your Volt Ambassador and yell. From what I've read the problem with GM & EVs is the huge gap between the excellent engineering quality of the product and the crappy quality of their dealerships. I'd say get your car out of that dealership and into one that has a better track record with EVs and make sure GM corporate hears about it. (Also a Volt owner)
    - odammit 9y ago
      Is there such thing as Volt Ambassador?! I have got in touch w GM they are equally slow...
      - cmrdporcupine 9y ago
        Well at least up here in Canada there are and pretty sure they at least used to have them down there. I got a call from mine a month or so after purchase, just to check on me and see how happy I was.
odammit 9y ago
I suffer from "nicest shit syndrome" (read: sucker) which means if you offer me a Mercedes with a few options to upgrade I'll just do it. When I priced out and test drove an S it was over 100k. Edit: Just repriced, 107k w/o the speedracer package (just the 100 kWh)

josefresco 9y ago

You can't afford a Tesla, but can afford a Mercedes Benz and considered a BMW? - huh.

robterrell 9y ago
MB B250e lease is around $400/mo. BMW i3 lease is under $300 right now. Tesla lease starts at $1,000.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  Knock about $200 a month off the Tesla lease for TCO based on Delta between electricity cost in petroleum fuel cost. Edit: i'm wrong. See below. Edit 2: In quite a few places, you can get time of day metering, where you pay lower rates for electricity at night. In Chicago, I pay $0.01/kwh between midnight and 5am; its essentially free to charge my Model S (it's slightly more at my place in Tampa, ~$0.06/kwh at all hours).
  - italophil 9y ago
    Both the B250e and i3 are electric as well. The B250e actually uses a motor from Tesla.
    - toomuchtodo 9y ago
      My mistake! Thanks for correcting me.
  - fps 9y ago
    The national average cost for gas is $2.67/gallon, Electricity $0.12/kwh. Based entirely on fuel costs, the Model S 85 costs $0.04/mile and the 20 mpg BMW M4 costs $0.13/mile. In order to save $200/month on fuel with the tesla, you'd have to drive 2200 miles a month. In the area I live, where gas is cheaper than average and electricity is almost twice as expensive, that number is 5000 miles/month.
    - 9y ago