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> I went through a ton of iterations and debugging to get this to work. The hardest parts were the electrical design and getting everything to fit inside the ph
by Kluny 9y ago
> I went through a ton of iterations and debugging to get this to work. The hardest parts were the electrical design and getting everything to fit inside the phone.
Crikey! How many iphones did he drill holes in?
> I also ended up having to buy lots, and lots, and lots of spare parts. I went through 3 complete iPhone 7s, a handful of screens, and countless internal components (mostly bottom cable assemblies and taptic engines).
3. Ok, that's dedication.
> I feel like I got extremely lucky about finding space inside the phone. There was inexplicably a lot of extra room in the lower left hand corner, right where I wanted to put the headphone jack.
Suspicious... almost like their engineers left room to change their minds about the jack at the last second if they wanted to :)
- have_faith 9y ago> empty space exactly where the jack was What was the party line for removing it again?
- dogma1138 9y agoWater proofing.
- foldr 9y agoThere are phones that claim to be waterproof and still have headphone jacks.
- dogma1138 9y agoYes but that doesn't change the main reasoning behind Apples decision as it was publicly conveyed; water ingress.
- damnfine 9y ago> ingress /pedant
- dogma1138 9y agoCorrected, i was initially going to write that they've added some valve for egress to balance the pressure so that stuck :P And I'm not sure it's being pedantic.
- wlesieutre 9y agoSome Thinkpads have put drain holes on the bottom connected to the keyboard, so water egress holes aren't that crazy an idea!
- andai 9y agoThe iPhone shall remain hydrated for your satisfaction.
- glogla 9y agoCourage.
- dogma1138 9y agoQuite likely that the decision has been made after the initial internal layout was set. The layout of the iPhone 7 isn't that different from the 6s.
- fifnir 9y agoYou should check his video on this, the guy also casually bought a dremmel, a printer and a fucking microscope (stereoscope?) in the process of making this....
- maxerickson 9y agoOn reddit he mentions shooting 225 hours of footage: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6ygqxk/guy_who_made_his_own_iphone_brings_35mm_jack_back/dmnutr2/ https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/6ygqxk/guy_who_made...
- theshrike79 9y agoBut these are Shenzhen prices, not western retail prices. I'm pretty sure that "Dremel" didn't cost him much over $10.
- klinquist 9y agoSame price as one at Harbor Freight in the US. https://www.harborfreight.com/80-piece-rotary-tool-kit-97626.html https://www.harborfreight.com/80-piece-rotary-tool-kit-97626...
- scottyallen 9y agoScotty, the guy in the video here. Sorry I'm late to the party. It was 165 rmb, so about $25.
- SmellyGeekBoy 9y agoAnd? Do you not spend money on hobbies / side projects?
- ship_it 9y agoWhat does your question have to do with the fact the Op just said?
- PascLeRasc 9y agoElectronics projects require equipment like that. Those are available in makerspaces near most people in America anyway.
- yladiz 9y ago> How many iphones did he drill holes in? You can buy the cases without phone internals easily in the markets in Shenzhen. I don't think the guy drilled in a "live" iPhone 7, from what I can tell in the video, but he did go through a lot of parts trying to get his headphone jack and later the headphone-lightning connector to fit into the phone.
- virgil_disgr4ce 9y agoCorrect. He also broke a bunch of screens in the final stages X-)
- Aloha 9y agoSomeone pointed out on Reddit last night - that it seemed obvious to him that Apple likely removed the headphone in the iPhone 7 to get the controversy out of the way ahead of the iPhone 8, which wouldn't have any room in it for a headphone jack - and for which said controversy would be a distraction against launching a new flagship device.
- Someone 9y agoIt also could be that quite a few of their designers managed to stay below their volume budgets, and they didn't want to risk a redesign, given their (presumably) strict deadlines. Alternatively, the space was set apart as a hedge against the AirPods not being ready at he time of the launch of the iPhone 7 (yes, they were late, but not _that_ late. Presumably (again) they knew they could make them when they made the decision to remove the headphone from the iPhone 7)
- seanmcdirmid 9y agoThere are plenty of Bluetooth headphones beyond AirPods. I'm sure they aren't even the most popular ones used with iPhones.
- btreesOfSpring 9y agothe hedging might have something to do with the W1 chip[0] improvements in the AirPods that provided for fast and consistent bluetooth pairing that Apple cared about more so than relying upon 3rd party bluetooth experience in a headphone connector-less flagship phone. [0] https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/12/apple-w1-chip-how-it-works/ https://9to5mac.com/2016/09/12/apple-w1-chip-how-it-works/
- ramzyo 9y agoWhat makes you so sure?
- Someone 9y agoYes, there are, and no, they may not be (1) However, chances are they are the Bluetooth headphones Apple makes the most money on, and that early adopters of the new iPhone are the most likely to buy them. Inducing (extra) demand for Bluetooth headphones and then leaving the market for such headphones to others in a period where your most 'able and willing to spend' customers enter your shop isn't the best of ideas. (1) (nitpicking) it wouldn't completely surprise me if they were, though, because Apple has exactly one product, whereas its competition tends to create zillions of 'different' products.
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- dbcurtis 9y agow.r.t. empty space: I once met an RF engineer that specialized in cell antennas. He said the first 1/4 of the project was doing complex RF simulations of many design iterations. The last 3/4 of the project schedule was spent defending the empty space around the antenna that enabled it to work. Said in jest, but I suspect it contained a lot of truth.