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>I'd love to see you defend why the guy is a professional communicator with a good attitude. He's not, but that doesn't matter. You're going to be hard pressed
by freehunter 9y ago
>I'd love to see you defend why the guy is a professional communicator with a good attitude.
He's not, but that doesn't matter. You're going to be hard pressed to only ever communicate with professional communicators with good attitudes your whole career. So if you ever want to be taken seriously and have a successful career, you're going to need to learn what battles are worth fighting. Hell, maybe it was even a test to see if the guy worked well on a high-stress team. If he can't handle one person not understanding the difference between Unix and Unix-like, how's he going to handle someone who puts a tab as an indent instead of two spaces?
The recruiter was wrong. But it doesn't matter. Stanley (hopefully) learned a valuable lesson here, and that lesson is "pick your battles". Life, especially corporate life, is full of nonsensical requirements and TPS reports and if you fight every single one of them your performance review will read "not a team player" every single year.
- Aeolun 9y ago> What are your weaknesses? I don't play well with idiots, or nonsensical bullshit.
- bitexploder 9y agoRecruiter is not a technical person. If you want technical people recruiting you work somewhere smaller. The real weakness is inability to communicate with non-technical members of staff.
- FridgeSeal 9y agoI would expect a recruiter for one of the biggest tech companies in the world to have at least some basic understanding/idea of even what linux is - that's not a big ask at all. Moreover, if I'm a recruiter, unless I'm a domain expert, looking to hire someone into the field and they say they already have it on their resume, I'm going to go and double check their resume and double check my own understanding before I go any further to avoid issues like this. The only person who looks bad here is the recruiter, and it's entirely their own fault.
- Retra 9y agoThe recruiter needn't even be a person. A blind monkey can detect that "UNIX" doesn't match "Linux and UNIX-Like" and reject an application. Pure text matching. Recruiter literally doesn't even need to know how to read. Most people can't communicate with blind monkeys though, so I wouldn't fault anyone for failing here either.
- mlnj 9y agoI would assume at this point that this is some advanced AI experiment Facebook was running to interact with future employees.
- numismatex 9y agoWell, then you'll end up being that one lack-of-social-skills dev in the basement at many places. Or in your Mom's basement because you can't hold a job. Social skills, interpersonal intelligence (EQ) and the ability to be patient and communicate are higher up the list than your portfolio of coding majesty or IQ.
- azinman2 9y agoGiven the exchange is now on imgur, I don’t think the lesson was learned.
- dcosson 9y agoI don't think "pick your battles" is quite fair. I didn't read this as him being stubborn for no reason, at least not in this initial message. He knows Facebook has a reputation as a strong technical team, and since he is applying for a technical job, he probably thought they'd appreciate the attention to detail of giving a thorough response. But yes, it certainly is a lesson in dealing with nonsense.
- RealityNow 9y agoWhat is up with this societal mentality that the employee is beneath the employer, and the employer has the license to be rude and it's the employee's job to accommodate their bullshit? Sending a resume for a job interview and dealing with an obnoxious recruiter is definitely not a battle I'd pick. If that's how they treat prospective job candidates, then that's probably not a company I want to work for.
- freehunter 9y agoThe employee is not below the employer, but the employer is the one who decides if the employee gets hired. Want a job there? Play by their rules. Don’t want a job there? Have an email exchange like this one.