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Why did you change the original NYT title, which is "Silicon Valley’s Politics: Liberal, With One Big Exception"? What on Earth is "Far Left"? Surely Silicon V
by baursak 9y ago
Why did you change the original NYT title, which is "Silicon Valley’s Politics: Liberal, With One Big Exception"?
What on Earth is "Far Left"? Surely Silicon Valley's politics are nowhere near Marxist or anarchist.
EDIT: apologies, you obviously didn't change it.
- CPLX 9y agoIt was the NYT that changed it, not the poster on HN. The NYT changes headlines constantly, it's actually sort of fascinating to watch in real time, which you can do by following this automated Twitter account: https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/905407322658402304 https://twitter.com/nyt_diff/status/905407322658402304
- baursak 9y agoOh wow, thanks! Apologies to GP.
- quuquuquu 9y agoDamn dude, awesome work finding this. Completely changes the dynamic of the accusation above. It seems NYT follows the "post now, edit later" approach
- ghaff 9y agoIn addition to the usual copyedit tweaks, headlines are the thing that editors are more likely to go in and make more attention-grabbing, even if they become less neutrally factual in the process. This isn't really anything new although of course historically it was done before the issue actually went to press.
- lftl 9y agoI wonder if it's even really about the editing process. It seems possible to me that they intentionally start with a more provocative headline to get more early traction for an article, and then switch to the more neutral title as an article gains views. I could even imagine it being A/B tested early to see which headline will get them the most shares.
- jknz 9y agoIt could be worse than "post now, edit later". The author could propose a list of a few possible headlines, say 10, each more or less urging/click-baity/informative. Then let an algorithm choose the most click-baity headline as visitors click on the headlines in ads or in Google news (using AB tests or multi-arn bandit algorithms). I don't know if any news site does this yet, but it could explain the increase of click-baity or uninformative headlines in Google news.
- gnicholas 9y agoWaPo AB uses a tool called Bandito to do just this: http://www.niemanlab.org/2016/02/how-the-washington-post-built-its-tool-to-re-engage-the-attention-of-distracted-readers-on-mobile/ http://www.niemanlab.org/2016/02/how-the-washington-post-bui...
- epistasis 9y agoArs Technica A/B tests their headlines.
- dekhn 9y agoall news sites do this now.
- yannis7 9y agoone additional reason not to feed that clickbait machine
- jjtheblunt 9y agoexcellent research to find that link!
- maehwasu 9y ago> Surely Silicon Valley's politics are nowhere near Marxist or anarchist. Replace Marxist "bourgeoisie" rhetoric with "white males" and you have the ideology of Silicon Valley.
- gnicholas 9y agoOP here. I was hesitant about the title, and I actually originally posted something less inflammatory (didn't say "far left"). But then I figured I'd directly copy the NYT title, so I wouldn't be accused of editorializing. As we've seen with A/B tested headlines, there is no way to escape this.