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The whole idea of someone staging most of their life to impress people on the internet, makes me physically uncomfortable to think about - even before consideri

by 659087 9y ago

The whole idea of someone staging most of their life to impress people on the internet, makes me physically uncomfortable to think about - even before considering the fact that they have "fans", which makes the whole thing even more awkward. It's like "reality" TV and celebrity worship taken to a whole new level of depressing and shallow.

olivermarks 9y ago
The rate card on the Bloomberg article says it all: get enough 'followers' and you are into big money. Whether those followers are real, bots, or created by insiders at Instagram is open to examination. Gary Vaynerchuk and his company Vaynermedia have played a role in making the big advertising holding companies see perceived value in 'influencer relations'. Vaynerchuk's (2.2 million followers) instagram presence reminds me of Chairman Mao's little red book, with endless exhortations to strive and succeed. https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en Glassdoor suggests a different reality at his company https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/VaynerMedia-Reviews-E482441.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/VaynerMedia-Reviews-E48244...
- 659087 9y ago
  > Vaynerchuk's (2.2 million followers) instagram presence reminds me of Chairman Mao's little red book, with endless exhortations to strive and succeed. https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en I don't even have words for that one - but that profile definitely wouldn't leave me thinking "I should do business with this person".
  - olivermarks 9y ago
    "We think too small, like the frog at the bottom of the well. He thinks the sky is only as big as the top of the well. If he surfaced, he would have an entirely different view" Mao Zedong
romanovcode 9y ago
Man it is very simple. The advertisement does not want to actively "sell the product", companies want to "sell a lifestyle" - that's where instagram comes in. It is a very old concept, I don't get why people are so shocked.
- 659087 9y ago
  I'm not shocked at all. Just nauseated.
  - romanovcode 9y ago
    But why tho? How is it different then George Clooney doing some in-movie or news commercial on some new stupid perfume in the 2000s
    - smnplk 9y ago
      Because it's destroying culture. People see value in places where there is no value. Everything is faked to the end with no imagination. If you are not immune, you better consume !
      - gizmo385 9y ago
        Who are you to decide that there is no value in it? People are clicking, reading, and engaging. People obviously enjoy doing it. Who are you to tell them that what they're doing is wrong?
        adventured 9y ago
        It's blatantly a form of snob-elitism that hides behind claims that it's about protecting culture (whose culture?). The same people that say Instagram is destroying culture or makes them ill, look down upon the daily living habits of 'average' people: TV viewing habits, tabloid-style reading (which today is BoredPanda & 22words type sites), Kardashian-ism, celebrity fascination, all the way on to food preferences and beliefs. That snobbery is as old as human history no doubt.
cubano 9y ago
it makes me want to straight puke my guts up.

by 659087 9y ago

olivermarks 9y ago

The rate card on the Bloomberg article says it all: get enough 'followers' and you are into big money. Whether those followers are real, bots, or created by insiders at Instagram is open to examination. Gary Vaynerchuk and his company Vaynermedia have played a role in making the big advertising holding companies see perceived value in 'influencer relations'. Vaynerchuk's (2.2 million followers) instagram presence reminds me of Chairman Mao's little red book, with endless exhortations to strive and succeed. https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en Glassdoor suggests a different reality at his company https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/VaynerMedia-Reviews-E482441.htm https://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/VaynerMedia-Reviews-E48244...

659087 9y ago
> Vaynerchuk's (2.2 million followers) instagram presence reminds me of Chairman Mao's little red book, with endless exhortations to strive and succeed. https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/garyvee/?hl=en I don't even have words for that one - but that profile definitely wouldn't leave me thinking "I should do business with this person".
- olivermarks 9y ago
  "We think too small, like the frog at the bottom of the well. He thinks the sky is only as big as the top of the well. If he surfaced, he would have an entirely different view" Mao Zedong

romanovcode 9y ago

Man it is very simple. The advertisement does not want to actively "sell the product", companies want to "sell a lifestyle" - that's where instagram comes in. It is a very old concept, I don't get why people are so shocked.

659087 9y ago
I'm not shocked at all. Just nauseated.
- romanovcode 9y ago
  But why tho? How is it different then George Clooney doing some in-movie or news commercial on some new stupid perfume in the 2000s
  - smnplk 9y ago
    Because it's destroying culture. People see value in places where there is no value. Everything is faked to the end with no imagination. If you are not immune, you better consume !
    - gizmo385 9y ago
      Who are you to decide that there is no value in it? People are clicking, reading, and engaging. People obviously enjoy doing it. Who are you to tell them that what they're doing is wrong?
      - adventured 9y ago
        It's blatantly a form of snob-elitism that hides behind claims that it's about protecting culture (whose culture?). The same people that say Instagram is destroying culture or makes them ill, look down upon the daily living habits of 'average' people: TV viewing habits, tabloid-style reading (which today is BoredPanda & 22words type sites), Kardashian-ism, celebrity fascination, all the way on to food preferences and beliefs. That snobbery is as old as human history no doubt.

cubano 9y ago

it makes me want to straight puke my guts up.