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I agree pragmatism is the best way forward. As long as production is up though and the baby is putting weight on well I personally wouldn't push for formula no

I agree pragmatism is the best way forward. As long as production is up though and the baby is putting weight on well I personally wouldn't push for formula nor would my partner. I think the problem we found with our personal situation was from day one anything that occurred such as baby crying,fussing, not sleeping was attributed directly to poor breast milk by both people we knew and strangers. My partner felt forced to move to formula but luckily with support from our midwife her supply came in well and both baby and mother are happy. Choices and support are the most important things but if supply,will,health and the option allow a mother to breastfeed I think the benefits do outweigh formula. Happy to hear you had a supportive paediatrician!

seanmcdirmid 9y ago
Strange, are you in the states? There is a huge push right now for breast feeding in most USA hospitals. Doctors are pattern matchers, your newborn symptoms could have been in their experience the baby not getting enough milk. If it wasn't the pediatrician, well, they are your best source for the baby's health, everyone else isn't qualified (including nurses, midwives, etc...). Also, it takes a while for the milk to come in after the baby is born, it is an incredibly tricky process of getting the baby fed where nature doesn't do us many favors. The baby probably was hungry, the milk probably came in later than they wanted, but all is still ok. Finally, you know what goes into baby with formula, with breast milk it is much harder to tell, making the job of determining if the baby is getting enough much more difficult. Breast feeding has benefits sure, but they aren't so much that it is worth starving the baby. It is a serious tightrope to walk, especially in the first few weeks before production comes in completely (if it does at all, many women have problems).
- scalesolved 9y ago
  In Spain. It's been a nice discussion, I do disagree with the statement of you know what goes into a baby with formula. At the end of the day weight gain is the best indicator not to mention the problems of formula fed babies being more prone to sicking up feeds (which makes it hard to 'measure' how much they get).
  - seanmcdirmid 9y ago
    You can use weight (output) in both cases. But with formula, you also have a good idea of what the input is. Later on you can pump breast milk to get a better idea of input, but that doesn't work well at the beginning. If you have a colic baby, all bets are off, of course.

seanmcdirmid 9y ago

Strange, are you in the states? There is a huge push right now for breast feeding in most USA hospitals. Doctors are pattern matchers, your newborn symptoms could have been in their experience the baby not getting enough milk. If it wasn't the pediatrician, well, they are your best source for the baby's health, everyone else isn't qualified (including nurses, midwives, etc...). Also, it takes a while for the milk to come in after the baby is born, it is an incredibly tricky process of getting the baby fed where nature doesn't do us many favors. The baby probably was hungry, the milk probably came in later than they wanted, but all is still ok. Finally, you know what goes into baby with formula, with breast milk it is much harder to tell, making the job of determining if the baby is getting enough much more difficult. Breast feeding has benefits sure, but they aren't so much that it is worth starving the baby. It is a serious tightrope to walk, especially in the first few weeks before production comes in completely (if it does at all, many women have problems).

scalesolved 9y ago
In Spain. It's been a nice discussion, I do disagree with the statement of you know what goes into a baby with formula. At the end of the day weight gain is the best indicator not to mention the problems of formula fed babies being more prone to sicking up feeds (which makes it hard to 'measure' how much they get).
- seanmcdirmid 9y ago
  You can use weight (output) in both cases. But with formula, you also have a good idea of what the input is. Later on you can pump breast milk to get a better idea of input, but that doesn't work well at the beginning. If you have a colic baby, all bets are off, of course.