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How Apple Plans to Change the Way You Use the Next iPhone
- spyspy 9y agoI want the base model to have 64GB. That's the sweet spot for how much data I keep on my phone (and I suspect I'm not alone). I'm afraid Apple is going to cripple the base model somehow in order to keep us paying for higher capacity ones.
- eridius 9y agoIt sounds like what you really mean is "I want the 64GB model to be cheaper". But really, the lowest-tier price should not be the "sweet spot" for storage, because why should all the people who want less than the "sweet spot" have to pay for that extra storage? The "sweet spot" should be the middle tier.
- falcolas 9y ago64gb is hardly a middle tier these days. Not when Apple wants us to take high resolution (and live) photos and movies, and watch movies and games on our devices. 32 GB is closing in on unusable for a modern phone with a few dozen apps. I'd consider 64GB to be the bottom tier, with 128 and 256 or 512 the next two tiers. And based on the specs on the pro devices (even the mini 4), Apple seems to agree.
- eridius 9y agoYou're discounting all the people who basically don't use storage on their devices. I guarantee you my grandmother has no need for 64GB of space.
- Doctor_Fegg 9y agoSpot on. I'm still using a 16GB iPhone and plenty happy with it. Really don't get why so many people want me to have to pay for a higher spec I won't use.
- falcolas 9y agoYou won't pay for that higher spec - the low end phone will always have the same price point. The argument could also be flipped - why do people who want a reasonable amount of storage on their phone be forced to pay $2-300 for $50-60 of memory?
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- adventured 9y ago64gb costs Apple $5. They're beyond taking their customers for granted at this point. This entire conversation is absurd given the price of 64gb now. The price for 64gb has come down to what it used to cost them for 8gb or 16gb, and they're simply refusing to upgrade the base memory as a means to stick it to their loyal customers for a sliver of added margin.
- falcolas 9y agoAnd my mother fills her phone with pictures and movies of her grandchildren, and is aggravated that she has to constantly offload all those photos. A single data point is just that - one data point. With higher resolution cameras and videos, they need more space to store the same number of pictures and videos. Those cameras have always been a big selling point for Apple.
- eridius 9y agoThen your mother should have a larger phone. The fact that most people want more than 32GB doesn't mean there isn't a need for a 32GB model.
- Shank 9y agoIt should be noted that, on iPhones, there is no 64gb model offered. It's 32gb, 128, and 256. On the Jet Black, it starts at 128.
- eridius 9y agoTrue. And I think that's a recognition of the fact that 128GB is actually the sweet spot, not 64GB. Meanwhile there is a sizable number of people who don't really need any storage at all, which is why the 32GB model exists.
- nrb 9y agoI think it has more to do with price anchoring the 128GB one, to make it look like a great value compared to the 32GB, since another large price bump only brings you another doubling of (dubiously useful) storage from there. Also, 32GB is bordering on unusable in late 2017 when many of the "essential" apps are taking up hundreds of MB or more, each and the phone records 4K video at 60fps.
- eridius 9y agoAs I've said in other comments, there is a big chunk of users that use effectively no storage at all, and would in fact be perfectly happy with the 16GB that used to be the lowest tier. I think Apple only bumped it to 32GB for PR reasons (well, and to help with OTA updates, because it was too easy to use up enough space on the 16GB model that there wasn't room for an OTA update).
- arvinsim 9y agoIt's the sweet spot for Apple for upselling, not for customers.
- maxxxxx 9y agoWe shouldn't forget that an SD card slot would solve this problem. And while we are at it, allow disk and memory upgrades on Macbooks.
- chimeracoder 9y ago> We shouldn't forget that an SD card slot would solve this problem. And while we are at it, allow disk and memory upgrades on Macbooks. Aside from the fact that an SD card slot would make it much harder to charge a premium markup on the hardware (which is where Apple makes most of its money), there are genuine usability concerns with putting SD cards on mobile phones. They're not insurmountable, which is why Samsung and other manufacturers do it, but Google and Apple both avoid it for their flagship devices, because from their perspective, forcing the user to have to think about the difference between internal and external storage is an anti-pattern. Power users may not like that answer, but beyond the revenue, that's the other reason they do it.
- dragonwriter 9y agoSamsung, to be fair, stopped doing it on flagships for a while, too, bringing them back on last years S7 and Note7.
- mikeash 9y agoUsers wouldn't be forced to think about the difference between internal and external storage. They could ignore the SD card slot and pretend it doesn't exist. Those who want to put up with the hassle could use it. There's an advantage in saving space and cost, and a major advantage for Apple in forcing people to buy absurdly expensive upgrades from them, but it's not about making the experience better somehow.
- csomar 9y agoI'm not sure what is your experience with SD cards but mine have been a horrible one. It can impact performance, and even freeze your phone. Now if you buy expensive SD cards it could solve the .... oh, just buy the upgrade!
- hilti 9y agoI really do wonder where Bloomberg got all this predictions from and looking forward to the 9/13 when they have to update this article. Either the author didn't know about future tense or he just tried to give his employer some traffic. It's just stupid to pretend that you details which of course are well secretly kept.
- tristanj 9y agoBloomberg hired the author (Mark Gurman) from 9to5Mac last year. https://www.recode.net/2016/6/1/11835514/bloomberg-mark-gurman-apple-scoop https://www.recode.net/2016/6/1/11835514/bloomberg-mark-gurm... He was a senior editor there. His 9to5Mac bio shows quite a stellar track record https://9to5mac.com/author/markgurman/ https://9to5mac.com/author/markgurman/
- pavement 9y agoinductive charging What about the headphone jack?
- chrisseaton 9y agoAre the two connected somehow?
- pavement 9y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_(connector)
- chrisseaton 9y agoIt doesn't say they're removing the lighting connector though does it? It just says they're adding inductive charging. The lighting connector is used for more things than charging. Such as headphones, as you said yourself. And aren't most headphones bluetooth these days?
- headcanon 9y agoWhat about it? its gone, its never coming back. Frankly I'd rather have the waterproofing features that a lack of a headphone jack gives you than one. I use bluetooth speakers much more than I plug in a 3.5mm jack on my current android.
- arvinsim 9y agoOh please. Samsung managed to have a waterproof phone with a headphone jack.
- aerique 9y agoSony as well.
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- myrandomcomment 9y agoIf all this is true then it sucks. Oh, not because of the phone as that seems cool! The issue is I want to be suprised at the Apple event. That is part of the fun. I hate all these leaks.
- vosper 9y ago... don't read the leaks, then?
- myrandomcomment 9y agoSure because it is not like the information is not front and center on a ton of sites home pages? A picture of the phone was on the front page of Ars Technica a few days back IIRC.
- cameldrv 9y agoI'm disappointed by the facial recognition authentication. I had it on my Nexus 4 and it was annoying. You can't discreetly unlock your phone in your lap or in your pocket and steal a glance at a notification, or use the phone in any number of other scenarios unless the phone is square with your face. Touchid was perfect for this.
- mercer 9y agoHow can you be disappointed by something that hasn't been released yet?