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>13 participants 60 and older... Oh we can just throw this shit right out. 13 participants? 60 and older in the US? How about some controls for Diet, Exercise
by 6stringmerc 9y ago
>13 participants 60 and older...
Oh we can just throw this shit right out. 13 participants? 60 and older in the US?
How about some controls for Diet, Exercise, and other general, you know, basic science shit? No? Well then allow me to just go ahead and call this study "statistically insignificant to the point of being potentially misleading" because I have pretty high expectations when it comes to rigor in academic study. This is what Northwestern chooses to highlight?
Point being, I grew up sleeping with Bach, John Jarvis, and Yngwie Malmsteen music for 20+ years. I think shoving a few cutesy-noise waves into the ears during rest is probably nice, like having a good pillow or decent sheets, but otherwise highly over-stated. This 13 person old fogey study means jack-shit in the big picture.
Want to have some real fun?
Let's get the Neural Network "Music" that Google is Researching to play during the sleep of 60 year olds and find out how that goes over. All these tech-approaches to very primal emotional pathways are disturbing to be on a general principle, mostly because not a single one of them has shown anything other than Placebo-esque results, and when placed against a control group, fail. Bonus hypothesis: The Google Machine Learning Music actually drives the Elderly Insane.
- amelius 9y ago> Let's get the Neural Network "Music" that Google is Researching to play during the sleep of 60 year olds and find out how that goes over. I'd be interested in using a feedback loop and an MRI scan (or whatever scan is needed) to selectively stimulate areas in the brain. I.e., computer generates music, looks at MRI, changes music accordingly, looks at MRI again, etc.
- bdamm 9y agoPeople like you are the reason I invest my time on HN. Thank you!
- vinchuco 9y agoA bit ironic how this is also a data point for why not to.
- 6stringmerc 9y ago...as noted in a sentence ending in a preposition, which most pedantic editors of written English would regard as a habit not to emulate.
- mistercow 9y ago"Statistically insignificant" isn't a loose term you can throw around just because the sample size is small. Here's the actual study, FYI: http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00109/full http://journal.frontiersin.org/article/10.3389/fnhum.2017.00...
- ikurei 9y agoOk. And your take is that in the original example they show sufficient arguments behind its statistical significance? (honest question, not trying to sound snarky or anything.)
- ikurei 9y ago(PD: I meant "in the original paper".)
- JoBrad 9y ago13 people participated in two nights of sleep. I didn't see anything about a control group, or any control for the day preceding the night of sleep. I tend to agree with this study, because of my personal experience with sound and its affect on my sleep, but I don't think this is anything but a reason to do a more in-depth study.
- rdiddly 9y agoAlso not apparently controlled-for is whether these people live in urban vs. rural (noisy vs. quiet) environments, and therefore can ordinarily expect sleep to be interrupted vs. not interrupted, by outside noise that the experiment's pink noise might be camouflaging.