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Ok, I'll bite. So is it better for organic waste to rot in a plastic bag in a landfill? or be left outside where it can rot down & degrade. Isn't it better to

by lsllc 9y ago

Ok, I'll bite. So is it better for organic waste to rot in a plastic bag in a landfill? or be left outside where it can rot down & degrade. Isn't it better to pitch your apple cores, food & bio-waste etc. into the woods? Surely the only things to pack out would be non-biodegradeable stuff; packaging etc. Every time I run trails, I see little blue or black poop bags left all over by dog owners (they never ever come back to pick them up!). Somehow I feel like it would be better if they just let their dogs crap in the woods as nature intended (not on the trails, but it can be flicked into the brush) so I don't have to look at the poop bags.

bastawhiz 9y ago
Throwing things that could be eaten by wild animals near trails or roads could draw animals closer to humans, having some unfortunate unintentional consequences.
- lsllc 9y ago
  Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating tossing food trash in the woods, but what's the difference between someones mostly eaten sandwich and an expired squirrel? or apples dropping from the apple tree (which they are doing right now!). Isn't that what wild animals do? scavengers will scavenge? (again, to be clear, this is not feeding the "Yellowstone bears" from the car window in the 60s, this is bits & pieces of scraps of food or bio-waste here and there in the woods). Are we not part of nature?
  - andai 9y ago
    Beehive = Nature Anthill = Nature City = Somehow magically separate from nature I think it was originally because of God, and now it's just inertia.
fletchowns 9y ago
In some cases maybe it would be better off in a landfill. Any time you introduce something foreign into an environment there could be unintended consequences. I think it would be better to always pack out everything you pack in.
pbhjpbhj 9y ago
Compostable and readily biodegradable alternatives to plastic are widely available, corn starch say. I think the solution is to legislate on manufacture - 50% tax on sale value unless it can be proven that plastic is the only viable material. [Non-recyclable food packaging needs to go the same way, tax them in to change or bankruptcy.] Didn't people used to just "kerb their dogs", ie get them to shit in the gutter or off the path. Why is that so hard?

by lsllc 9y ago

bastawhiz 9y ago

Throwing things that could be eaten by wild animals near trails or roads could draw animals closer to humans, having some unfortunate unintentional consequences.

lsllc 9y ago
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating tossing food trash in the woods, but what's the difference between someones mostly eaten sandwich and an expired squirrel? or apples dropping from the apple tree (which they are doing right now!). Isn't that what wild animals do? scavengers will scavenge? (again, to be clear, this is not feeding the "Yellowstone bears" from the car window in the 60s, this is bits & pieces of scraps of food or bio-waste here and there in the woods). Are we not part of nature?
- andai 9y ago
  Beehive = Nature Anthill = Nature City = Somehow magically separate from nature I think it was originally because of God, and now it's just inertia.

fletchowns 9y ago

In some cases maybe it would be better off in a landfill. Any time you introduce something foreign into an environment there could be unintended consequences. I think it would be better to always pack out everything you pack in.

pbhjpbhj 9y ago

Compostable and readily biodegradable alternatives to plastic are widely available, corn starch say. I think the solution is to legislate on manufacture - 50% tax on sale value unless it can be proven that plastic is the only viable material. [Non-recyclable food packaging needs to go the same way, tax them in to change or bankruptcy.] Didn't people used to just "kerb their dogs", ie get them to shit in the gutter or off the path. Why is that so hard?