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Sometimes conversation may occur that otherwise would have been avoided thanks to cellphones, other times you get calming silence instead. Its a definite risk,

by posguy 9y ago

Sometimes conversation may occur that otherwise would have been avoided thanks to cellphones, other times you get calming silence instead. Its a definite risk, but the whole equation is ignored usually.

nulagrithom 9y ago
> other times you get calming silence instead I always like that Pulp Fiction line: "That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the fuck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence." I don't think a moment of silence is any excuse to pull out the cellphone. In fact, I think this highlights part of the problem we have with cellphones. We expect constant entertainment, action, and info. It's really rare anymore to just sit for a minute and do nothing -- and it could be that doing nothing is pretty important.
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- i_cant_speel 9y ago
  This morning I was in the elevator with three other people. All three of them were looking at their phones. Strangely, I felt weird just standing there waiting. I feel like the world transformed so quickly.
  - mirimir 9y ago
    I remember when I was the only one carrying a laptop. And then a cellphone. And then a smartphone. Then I zoned out on privacy and anonymity zealotry. And the next thing I knew, everyone and their little yellow dog had their face in a smartphone 24/7. WTF? Seriously, WTF?
- chiefofgxbxl 9y ago
  Phones have indeed allowed people to both need and satisfy that need for constant stimulation. It's pretty sad. I'm the kind of guy in a coffee shop, waiting room, etc. who just stares into space glad that I owe my thoughts to myself and not my phone. But when everyone else has their phones out except for me, people probably think I'm a weirdo. And it's not just phones, mind you. It's televisions, also. I used to go to a nice, quiet, and remote barbershop. Affordable haircuts and no noise. What's not to love? As soon as he started attracting more customers, boom: television in the waiting room. Gotta keep people constantly distracted I guess :\ I saw a guy today in a coffee shop. He had no smartphone, tablet or laptop. He just sat there drinking his coffee. Like a psychopath. (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5j54a0AOYfg/VqbpdyKMA8I/AAAAAAAA2XE/-TJC_wlk_nw/s663-p/3dc964a4-c55a-40d1-91fe-7294149981a0 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5j54a0AOYfg/VqbpdyKMA8I/A...)
  - devotedtoneu 9y ago
    I have to take a moment to thank you for this comment and that image. It demonstrates the point so well, without a lengthy read.
  - chimprich 9y ago
    > Phones have indeed allowed people to both need and satisfy that need for constant stimulation. It's pretty sad. Why is it sad? I think it's fantastic. It's the elimination of boredom and the ability to be interested, productive or entertained at any moment. It's not like anyone is forcing you to look at your phone. I'm quite capable of putting my phone away and staring into space if the mood takes me. Your communal TV example is rather more intrusive by comparison.
    - chiefofgxbxl 9y ago
      It's a matter of opinion, and I agree to some extent that phones can allow people to be productive or feed a curiosity. At the end of the day, though, I think the greatest thing that gets to me is its impulsiveness and form of instant gratification. It's gotten so bad that people can't even put their phones down while driving. I've seen enough drivers texting, even if they are just stopped at a red light. Why we permit people to continue driving when they can't respect the notion of operating a several-thousand pound, gasoline-filled vehicle that can kill dozens of those around them is beyond me. On a less extreme spectrum, sometimes when eating dinner with friends a question will be posed and someone will whip out their phone to look it up. Sure, having answers instantaneously is a benefit, but the drawback is also the loss in ability to take a moment to ponder the question... to come up with your one's own thoughts and exercise the mind, so to speak.

by posguy 9y ago

nulagrithom 9y ago

> other times you get calming silence instead I always like that Pulp Fiction line: "That's when you know you've found somebody special. When you can just shut the fuck up for a minute and comfortably enjoy the silence." I don't think a moment of silence is any excuse to pull out the cellphone. In fact, I think this highlights part of the problem we have with cellphones. We expect constant entertainment, action, and info. It's really rare anymore to just sit for a minute and do nothing -- and it could be that doing nothing is pretty important.

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i_cant_speel 9y ago
This morning I was in the elevator with three other people. All three of them were looking at their phones. Strangely, I felt weird just standing there waiting. I feel like the world transformed so quickly.
- mirimir 9y ago
  I remember when I was the only one carrying a laptop. And then a cellphone. And then a smartphone. Then I zoned out on privacy and anonymity zealotry. And the next thing I knew, everyone and their little yellow dog had their face in a smartphone 24/7. WTF? Seriously, WTF?
chiefofgxbxl 9y ago
Phones have indeed allowed people to both need and satisfy that need for constant stimulation. It's pretty sad. I'm the kind of guy in a coffee shop, waiting room, etc. who just stares into space glad that I owe my thoughts to myself and not my phone. But when everyone else has their phones out except for me, people probably think I'm a weirdo. And it's not just phones, mind you. It's televisions, also. I used to go to a nice, quiet, and remote barbershop. Affordable haircuts and no noise. What's not to love? As soon as he started attracting more customers, boom: television in the waiting room. Gotta keep people constantly distracted I guess :\ I saw a guy today in a coffee shop. He had no smartphone, tablet or laptop. He just sat there drinking his coffee. Like a psychopath. (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5j54a0AOYfg/VqbpdyKMA8I/AAAAAAAA2XE/-TJC_wlk_nw/s663-p/3dc964a4-c55a-40d1-91fe-7294149981a0 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5j54a0AOYfg/VqbpdyKMA8I/A...)
- devotedtoneu 9y ago
  I have to take a moment to thank you for this comment and that image. It demonstrates the point so well, without a lengthy read.
- chimprich 9y ago
  > Phones have indeed allowed people to both need and satisfy that need for constant stimulation. It's pretty sad. Why is it sad? I think it's fantastic. It's the elimination of boredom and the ability to be interested, productive or entertained at any moment. It's not like anyone is forcing you to look at your phone. I'm quite capable of putting my phone away and staring into space if the mood takes me. Your communal TV example is rather more intrusive by comparison.
  - chiefofgxbxl 9y ago
    It's a matter of opinion, and I agree to some extent that phones can allow people to be productive or feed a curiosity. At the end of the day, though, I think the greatest thing that gets to me is its impulsiveness and form of instant gratification. It's gotten so bad that people can't even put their phones down while driving. I've seen enough drivers texting, even if they are just stopped at a red light. Why we permit people to continue driving when they can't respect the notion of operating a several-thousand pound, gasoline-filled vehicle that can kill dozens of those around them is beyond me. On a less extreme spectrum, sometimes when eating dinner with friends a question will be posed and someone will whip out their phone to look it up. Sure, having answers instantaneously is a benefit, but the drawback is also the loss in ability to take a moment to ponder the question... to come up with your one's own thoughts and exercise the mind, so to speak.