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A lot of money?

by logical42 9y ago

A lot of money?

alexruf 9y ago
As I see it $70 is a lot. VScode is free and offers me almost the same (if not more), plus it's activly develop.
- Raphmedia 9y ago
  It's not as if they are forcing you to pay for it.
- rpedela 9y ago
  Isn't Sublime free with a suggestion to pay?
  - sicher 9y ago
    No. https://www.sublimetext.com/buy?v=3 https://www.sublimetext.com/buy?v=3
- zzleeper 9y ago
  TBH for something that you probably use daily for your day job, $70 is not a lot at all. And last time I tried, working with large files was a pita on vscode.
  - maccard 9y ago
    I'm not the op, but for me, it's not really worth $70. I use visual studio daily, and just use another editor for odd things - editing a value in a config file etc. 70 bucks is too much for yhatcfor me. Atom/vs code have way too much of a start up time for a quick one file edit, so I use notepad++
  - Thaxll 9y ago
    Some people don't even pay for the Windows licence, so imagine paying for an editor.
  - komali2 9y ago
    Well, you may feel that way, but you are contradicting a direct value statement. The OP stated unequivocally that 70$ was not worth it to them - that's not really for any of us to decide, we can only disagree that it's a lot of money for us.
- coldtea 9y ago
  Well, let's hope people don't pay for your/our products with the same reasoning in mind, that $70 for a professional tool they will use 10 hours a day throughout the year is "a lot".
  - holydude 9y ago
    It is a "LOT" compared to "free" products. Defining a "LOT" in software is really tricky but I really agree with the part about a tool you use quiet a lot :-)
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satysin 9y ago
While Sublime Text is a very good editor I do think $70 is a lot when you look at the free competition. VSCode and Atom did not exist when ST2 was released and ST2 offered the best out-of-box experience back then, now I am not so sure.
- coldtea 9y ago
  >I do think $70 is a lot when you look at the free competition For a professional programmer it should be less money that they make in a day for a tool they use 365 days every year. And whether there are free editors out there doesn't mean anything as to whether it's cheap or not. Vim and Emacs and 20 other free editors already existed when ST3 (or SlickEdit, or whatever) came out.
  - satysin 9y ago
    Perhaps I am unusual but even for a professional programmer $70 is still a lot when there are other free tools that are just as good. Why would I spend $70 on an editor rather than treat myself to a new game or a nice meal out instead and have a still-excellent experience using something like VSCode? Yes Emacs, Vim, Notepad++, etc. have been around for years but they are/were no way near as simple to get to grips with or as smooth out-of-the-box. That is where Sublime Text really nailed it. It was simple and beautiful from the moment you ran it. It didn't need a tutorial to help you figure out how to exit ;) Now we have Atom and VSCode (to name two) that offer that excellent experience out-of-the-box along with regular updates, built in Git integration, open source, etc.
    - holydude 9y ago
      The funniest thing is no editor had delivered the whole package. 1) emacs is crazily extensible but hard to use. Uses hacks to get the performance 2) vi(m) is extensible, fast but also hard to use 3) ST is easy to use, fast but not that extensible as emacs/atom 4)atom/vscode is extensible,easy to use but slow
    - coldtea 9y ago
      >Why would I spend $70 on an editor rather than treat myself to a new game or a nice meal out instead and have a still-excellent experience using something like VSCode? Because the game you'll finish in a few weeks and forget about and the meal you'll shit in the same day, whereas the editor you'll use for years on end daily. Now, if you find another editor (free or paid) is better and gives you just as good or even a better experience, by no means, use that. But if one feels ST3 is better, or even just a little better, then complaining about it costing 1/40th or less of a month's salary as if its any large factor doesn't make sense.

A lot of money?

alexruf 9y ago

As I see it $70 is a lot. VScode is free and offers me almost the same (if not more), plus it's activly develop.

Raphmedia 9y ago
It's not as if they are forcing you to pay for it.
rpedela 9y ago
Isn't Sublime free with a suggestion to pay?
- sicher 9y ago
  No. https://www.sublimetext.com/buy?v=3 https://www.sublimetext.com/buy?v=3
zzleeper 9y ago
TBH for something that you probably use daily for your day job, $70 is not a lot at all. And last time I tried, working with large files was a pita on vscode.
- maccard 9y ago
  I'm not the op, but for me, it's not really worth $70. I use visual studio daily, and just use another editor for odd things - editing a value in a config file etc. 70 bucks is too much for yhatcfor me. Atom/vs code have way too much of a start up time for a quick one file edit, so I use notepad++
- Thaxll 9y ago
  Some people don't even pay for the Windows licence, so imagine paying for an editor.
- komali2 9y ago
  Well, you may feel that way, but you are contradicting a direct value statement. The OP stated unequivocally that 70$ was not worth it to them - that's not really for any of us to decide, we can only disagree that it's a lot of money for us.
coldtea 9y ago
Well, let's hope people don't pay for your/our products with the same reasoning in mind, that $70 for a professional tool they will use 10 hours a day throughout the year is "a lot".
- holydude 9y ago
  It is a "LOT" compared to "free" products. Defining a "LOT" in software is really tricky but I really agree with the part about a tool you use quiet a lot :-)
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satysin 9y ago

While Sublime Text is a very good editor I do think $70 is a lot when you look at the free competition. VSCode and Atom did not exist when ST2 was released and ST2 offered the best out-of-box experience back then, now I am not so sure.

coldtea 9y ago
>I do think $70 is a lot when you look at the free competition For a professional programmer it should be less money that they make in a day for a tool they use 365 days every year. And whether there are free editors out there doesn't mean anything as to whether it's cheap or not. Vim and Emacs and 20 other free editors already existed when ST3 (or SlickEdit, or whatever) came out.
- satysin 9y ago
  Perhaps I am unusual but even for a professional programmer $70 is still a lot when there are other free tools that are just as good. Why would I spend $70 on an editor rather than treat myself to a new game or a nice meal out instead and have a still-excellent experience using something like VSCode? Yes Emacs, Vim, Notepad++, etc. have been around for years but they are/were no way near as simple to get to grips with or as smooth out-of-the-box. That is where Sublime Text really nailed it. It was simple and beautiful from the moment you ran it. It didn't need a tutorial to help you figure out how to exit ;) Now we have Atom and VSCode (to name two) that offer that excellent experience out-of-the-box along with regular updates, built in Git integration, open source, etc.
  - holydude 9y ago
    The funniest thing is no editor had delivered the whole package. 1) emacs is crazily extensible but hard to use. Uses hacks to get the performance 2) vi(m) is extensible, fast but also hard to use 3) ST is easy to use, fast but not that extensible as emacs/atom 4)atom/vscode is extensible,easy to use but slow
  - coldtea 9y ago
    >Why would I spend $70 on an editor rather than treat myself to a new game or a nice meal out instead and have a still-excellent experience using something like VSCode? Because the game you'll finish in a few weeks and forget about and the meal you'll shit in the same day, whereas the editor you'll use for years on end daily. Now, if you find another editor (free or paid) is better and gives you just as good or even a better experience, by no means, use that. But if one feels ST3 is better, or even just a little better, then complaining about it costing 1/40th or less of a month's salary as if its any large factor doesn't make sense.