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> Currently we can collect this data when the user opts in, but we don't have a way to collect unbiased data, without explicit consent (opt-out). That to me s
by gvx 9y ago
> Currently we can collect this data when the user opts in, but we don't have a way to collect unbiased data, without explicit consent (opt-out).
That to me suggests the problem isn't that too many people are opting-out, it's that not enough people are opting-in.
- throwaway2048 9y agoClearly those users that dont choose to opt in are wrong, and mozilla needs to make this choice for them... This trend towards parentalism in software, especially software that is supposed to be user driven is frankly a steaming pile of garbage. If you have any shred of pretense of being pro-privacy and pro-user dont do this mozilla.
- gvx 9y agoIt's more that a lot of people really don't care one way or another, and will neither go out of their way to opt-in or opt-out. Additionally, it's not that Mozilla just disregards user privacy here: differential privacy being used would mean that no user has to reveal their private information, but looking at all the data in aggregate would still allow Mozilla to gain useful information on how to make Firefox better.
- marcosdumay 9y agoThe people that don't care one way or another are mostly using Chrome.
- quickben 9y agoSo, let me see if I can follow your argument. Because most people don't care, it was decided to implement a feature that is flat out contrary to people caring. Management decisions like this don't exactly inspire confidence about the future of the browser.
- Vinnl 9y agoIt's not even that not enough people are opting in, it's that the people opting in are "people that would opt-in", i.e. they match a certain profile that makes them not representative of the average user, and thus less good sources to draw conclusions from. Because presumably, the users who opt-in are tech-savvy users who actually read dialog windows presented to them, and thus behave very differently from the average user.