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Because they are in a dominant market position. Honestly, it's your fault for buying a console - you knew you'd be at sony's mercy due to the monopolistic natur

by ripdog 9y ago

Because they are in a dominant market position. Honestly, it's your fault for buying a console - you knew you'd be at sony's mercy due to the monopolistic nature of consoles. The cost of switching to the one comparible console option is so great, most people will not bother unless sony's issues become too great - and network speed is presumably not a deal-breaker for enough people for sony to care. So you will continue to suffer abominable download speeds on your PS4, because the cost of switching is too great for most. Basically, suck it up. I hate to get all PCMR on you, but this is why everyone should game on PC. If my steam purchase downloaded super slow, I could simply get a refund on steam (an automated process) and purchase the same game on GOG, or on Humble Store. Sometimes Origin or Uplay. PC means freedom, or not being at the mercy of a single uncaring corporate entity.

andrewstuart 9y ago
I left PC gaming behind years ago. I like to sit on the couch and I want my gaming device to be a black box that does its job and is dedicated to couch based entertainment (I use it for TV too). PC gaming requires a...... PC... usually sitting at a desk, much more powerful than I need, lots of configuration etc etc to hard.... I'm a couch gamer in the evening after the programming is done. I don't care much about the PlayStation download thing. I generally prefer to buy my games on DVD anyway. Sony should care however.... despite not wanting to spend money on digital downloads I find I spend ever more with Apple App Store because despite my hesitations they make it easy and it works, whereas I don't want to buy digital with Sony and they make it easy not to do that. >>>PC means freedom, or not being at the mercy of a single uncaring corporate entity I just don't care about that stuff any more.. life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are.
- mciancia 9y ago
  > I don't care much about the PlayStation download thing. I generally prefer to buy my games on DVD anyway. Yeah, wait until you will have 30GB update for a game to download.
  - WillPostForFood 9y ago
    I don't think you deserve downvotes here. I only buy physical copies of games, and the standard experience is to come home, insert the disc, and wait for a multi gigabyte patch to download and install before playing.
  - NTripleOne 9y ago
    Yup, this was my first experience with my brief stint owning a bloodborne machine. Put in game, 20GB update. Cool, guess I'm not playing that today then. Sold that thing a couple of months later, what a waste of money the whole rigmarole was. Bloodborne wasn't even that good imo either.
- jdormit 9y ago
  I have a Steam Link, and I get all the benefits of PC gaming from my couch. It's a pretty seamless best-of-both-worlds situation.
  - MBCook 9y ago
    You also get the downside of having to maintain/upgrade the PC, which is one of the things I was happy to leave behind when I became a console-only gamer.
    - theWatcher37 9y ago
      I have less free time than most here and somehow I find a way. "Maintaining" a PC is super easy...
      - govg 9y ago
        Upgrading a PC is a one time thing you need to do once every few years. You'd be "upgrading" your console by putting it in the bin and buying a new one, so I'm not sure what the argument is against PC gaming here...
        HumbleGamer 9y ago
        There is a convenience factor. You dont have to think if you will be able to play 'xxxx' game on your ps4, if its a ps4 game. That plays heavily in keeping me away from PC gaming. I just dont want to have to even consider can I play the game or not.
        MBCook 9y ago
        Right. If I was using a PC all the time at home for something else it wouldn't be such a big deal, but given that I was only using it for gaming and most games I wanted to play were on the console it was just easier to give up. Like you said, it's an appliance and I never have to think about it. You buy a game for the PS4 and it works on your PS4 and that's all there is to it.
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- ekianjo 9y ago
  > I just don't care about that stuff any more.. life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are. Oh this state of things can change faster than the duration of your lifetime, so you should care.
- Drdrdrq 9y ago
  > ...life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are This is not what freedom of choice is about (to me). What I care about is the amount of power they yield over my experience. In Linux their power is low. Windows? Mac? Too high for my taste.
  - Pulcinella 9y ago
    I don't disagree that this I inportant to you. Right now my infant child wields "absolute power" over my life so the convenience and time savings of a console is worth it to me.
    - Drdrdrq 9y ago
      Touché. :-D
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ekianjo 9y ago
> If my steam purchase downloaded super slow, I could simply get a refund on steam (an automated process) and purchase the same game on GOG, or on Humble Store I'm with you in general (PC Gamer here) but your example does not really work well. There are many games only available on Steam and not GOG, and while you get most Steam games (but not all) on Humble Bundle, Humble Bundle only gives you a Steam key so you are back to Steam and its potential issues. Unfortunately, because of Steam's predominance in PC Gaming, you are more of less stuck with the same problems as the PS4, as in "if it does not work, suck it up". There is no other store platform on PC that has the breadth of choice of Steam.
- ric2b 9y ago
  > Humble Bundle only gives you a Steam key so you are back to Steam and its potential issues. No, you can download the game directly from Humble Bundle but sometimes (often) they also give you a steam key.
  - ekianjo 9y ago
    No, only drm free purchases are like that but most of what you buy on the HB store are just steam keys.

by ripdog 9y ago

andrewstuart 9y ago

I left PC gaming behind years ago. I like to sit on the couch and I want my gaming device to be a black box that does its job and is dedicated to couch based entertainment (I use it for TV too). PC gaming requires a...... PC... usually sitting at a desk, much more powerful than I need, lots of configuration etc etc to hard.... I'm a couch gamer in the evening after the programming is done. I don't care much about the PlayStation download thing. I generally prefer to buy my games on DVD anyway. Sony should care however.... despite not wanting to spend money on digital downloads I find I spend ever more with Apple App Store because despite my hesitations they make it easy and it works, whereas I don't want to buy digital with Sony and they make it easy not to do that. >>>PC means freedom, or not being at the mercy of a single uncaring corporate entity I just don't care about that stuff any more.. life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are.

mciancia 9y ago
> I don't care much about the PlayStation download thing. I generally prefer to buy my games on DVD anyway. Yeah, wait until you will have 30GB update for a game to download.
- WillPostForFood 9y ago
  I don't think you deserve downvotes here. I only buy physical copies of games, and the standard experience is to come home, insert the disc, and wait for a multi gigabyte patch to download and install before playing.
- NTripleOne 9y ago
  Yup, this was my first experience with my brief stint owning a bloodborne machine. Put in game, 20GB update. Cool, guess I'm not playing that today then. Sold that thing a couple of months later, what a waste of money the whole rigmarole was. Bloodborne wasn't even that good imo either.
jdormit 9y ago
I have a Steam Link, and I get all the benefits of PC gaming from my couch. It's a pretty seamless best-of-both-worlds situation.
- MBCook 9y ago
  You also get the downside of having to maintain/upgrade the PC, which is one of the things I was happy to leave behind when I became a console-only gamer.
  - theWatcher37 9y ago
    I have less free time than most here and somehow I find a way. "Maintaining" a PC is super easy...
    - govg 9y ago
      Upgrading a PC is a one time thing you need to do once every few years. You'd be "upgrading" your console by putting it in the bin and buying a new one, so I'm not sure what the argument is against PC gaming here...
      - HumbleGamer 9y ago
        There is a convenience factor. You dont have to think if you will be able to play 'xxxx' game on your ps4, if its a ps4 game. That plays heavily in keeping me away from PC gaming. I just dont want to have to even consider can I play the game or not.
        MBCook 9y ago
        Right. If I was using a PC all the time at home for something else it wouldn't be such a big deal, but given that I was only using it for gaming and most games I wanted to play were on the console it was just easier to give up. Like you said, it's an appliance and I never have to think about it. You buy a game for the PS4 and it works on your PS4 and that's all there is to it.
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ekianjo 9y ago
> I just don't care about that stuff any more.. life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are. Oh this state of things can change faster than the duration of your lifetime, so you should care.
Drdrdrq 9y ago
> ...life's too short to worry about who our corporate overlords are This is not what freedom of choice is about (to me). What I care about is the amount of power they yield over my experience. In Linux their power is low. Windows? Mac? Too high for my taste.
- Pulcinella 9y ago
  I don't disagree that this I inportant to you. Right now my infant child wields "absolute power" over my life so the convenience and time savings of a console is worth it to me.
  - Drdrdrq 9y ago
    Touché. :-D
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ekianjo 9y ago

> If my steam purchase downloaded super slow, I could simply get a refund on steam (an automated process) and purchase the same game on GOG, or on Humble Store I'm with you in general (PC Gamer here) but your example does not really work well. There are many games only available on Steam and not GOG, and while you get most Steam games (but not all) on Humble Bundle, Humble Bundle only gives you a Steam key so you are back to Steam and its potential issues. Unfortunately, because of Steam's predominance in PC Gaming, you are more of less stuck with the same problems as the PS4, as in "if it does not work, suck it up". There is no other store platform on PC that has the breadth of choice of Steam.

ric2b 9y ago
> Humble Bundle only gives you a Steam key so you are back to Steam and its potential issues. No, you can download the game directly from Humble Bundle but sometimes (often) they also give you a steam key.
- ekianjo 9y ago
  No, only drm free purchases are like that but most of what you buy on the HB store are just steam keys.