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Too much standing is bad, study finds
- cpncrunch 9y agoIt found that heart disease was higher for those standing, than for those sitting. So much for the fad of standing desks.
- dba7dba 9y agoI think stand up desk is still good if you can change between sit and stand 2, 3 times a day.
- gozur88 9y agoIt's probably not good for your circulatory system to be mostly motionless for long periods of time, sitting or standing.
- cpncrunch 9y agoWe already know sitting is bad. Now we know standing is bad too. We know exercise is good, so it seems pretty obvious that the answer is to have regular exercise.
- maxxxxx 9y agoI really envy people with jobs where they can move around a lot. Staring at a screen the whole day in one place can't be good for you no matter standing or sitting.
- farnsworth 9y agoI want an office with several computers in different corners - or possibly several small rooms, each with a computer. I'll use each computer for one particular type of task, and move around as I switch to different tasks. Besides the physical activity, I'd be able to context switch better, and keep myself on topic better - e.g., to take a HN break, I have to get up and walk over to the recreation computer. I think VR will give me this - I'll wear one portable headset, and walk around to multiple virtual workspaces.
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- WesleyLivesay 9y agoI guess it is time to get on the treadmill desk hype train.
- wanghq 9y agohttp://www.jointventurespt.com/images/blog-images/sit-to-walkstation-treadmill-desk-1.jpg http://www.jointventurespt.com/images/blog-images/sit-to-wal...
- chairmanwow 9y agoSerious Question: can you actually type using this?
- lostmsu 9y agoEasily. At least with a big keyboard like Microsoft Natural. Hitting small areas with mouse becomes much harder though.
- jraines 9y agositting will kill you, standing will kill you . . . luckily I float in a vat of nutrient gel like a Guild Navigator
- md224 9y agoThis is funny, but it's also a good example of a particular kind of scientific inquiry: figuring out ways to maximize your life span. Not only is this research often inaccurate (as Science is always a work-in-progress), it tends to promote this idea that maximizing your lifespan should be your highest priority. Some people just want to live faster than others. Everyone should be welcome to their own priorities as long as the negative externalities are tolerable. Of course, deciding what counts as "tolerable" is a subjective, social process, and rational people can (and do) disagree. I guess I'm just trying to say life is short, so don't worry too much about how to position yourself at your desk.
- cpncrunch 9y agoWell for me being stuck at a desk all day (whether standing, sitting, or on my head), is intolerable full stop. I feel that my current lifestyle probably maximises both lifespan, physical and mental health, and enjoyment. (I work for myself from home on my own projects, and take regular breaks and exercise). I realise that I'm quite fortunate to be in this situation...my wife hates her job and is desperately trying to figure out if she can make it tolerable, or if there's something else she can do instead.
- FooHentai 9y agoAnecdotally, all standing at work did was swapped some health risk factors for other ones. I was doing my back a favor, but I set myself on course for varicose veins and DVT. Also, standing messed with focus. It helped when switching focus away from the screen (meetings, discussions etc). But keeping focus on the screen became harder.
- mr_tristan 9y agoI prefer to stand mostly because it helps some mobility issues I've noticed while doing olympic weightlifting, notably, sitting for long periods really tightens my hip flexors and external shoulder rotation. It's taken me a couple of years, but gradually my overhead squat has become stable and low. But that process wasn't due to me just standing: over these years I've also done lots of exercises to explicitly improve the position. Standing all day vs sitting all day is just something I notice when I get to the gym. After a long day of meetings, I find I need a solid 2-3 more minutes of hip flexor and shoulder work to get things moving. However, I don't think for a second that standing all day has anywhere near as significant an impact as doing olympic weightlifting 4-ish hours a week. Building up the body's ability to handle high intensity physical activity doesn't take long, but over the long term, you can make major improvements. For me, I've easily more than doubled maximal intensities I can perform: I recall a time starting out that a 225 lb deadlift was difficult. I regularly pull 400-450 pounds now, and can do it for multiple reps in a single session without significant soreness the day after. And notably, I started at the age of 36, and my bodyweight hasn't changed that much, though I'm less pudgy and a little more muscular. I'm hardly what someone would spot as a "beast" or associate with being a bodybuilder. (Lifting for high intensity involves a lot of central nervous system training, often overlooked until you're doing it.) In the end, I just question these recommendations to "stand vs sit", because neither of these things are going to really challenge your body. My sense is that unless you significantly challenge the combination of strength, flexibility, and aerobic capacity with some regularity, what you do in low-intensity situations will only change you in a minor way. Subsequently, my guess is that if you actually measured athletic performance (standing vertical jump, V02 max, etc) of someone who sat all day at work vs stood up all day at work, there probably wouldn't be much of a change. And as a corollary, I'd expect if you found a way for people to actually improve their athletic performance significantly, that would likely have a significant effect on their quality of life as they age. Unfortunately, most athletic studies are performed at colleges on a fixed demo, e.g., college athletes. I'm just not aware of anyone looking at long term effects of athletic performance for the average joe in the workforce. It would be an expensive proposition, too, so I'm not sure it'll be forthcoming.
- antisthenes 9y agoTurns out doing too much of anything is bad for you. Also turns out standing in 1 place is still sedentary. Who would have thought.
- moretai 9y agoSimple. Stand on your hands.