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It also had the opposite of its intended effect. Millions of people had no idea Daily Stormer existed until GoDaddy, Google, and CloudFlare kicked them out. Ea

It also had the opposite of its intended effect. Millions of people had no idea Daily Stormer existed until GoDaddy, Google, and CloudFlare kicked them out. Each one only added to their growing pile of free publicity. I guess Google never Googled "Streisand Effect"? First Damore and now this. Edit: Also kind of ironic that my comments are now being buried on HN because I posted some unpopular opinions. Maybe we should throw HN in the mix too. Edit2: Aaaaand now I'm not even allowed to post. HN is at least predictable in their censorship tactics, if nothing else.

jlebrech 9y ago
yes but, you cannot access any of it. the downside to them being down is that there's no more proof they were more than just white trolls.
- gthtjtkt 9y ago
  Yes, but you'll easily find similar sites when you search for it.
lallysingh 9y ago
Why do you think that's why you're being buried?
- gthtjtkt 9y ago
  Because it happened almost immediately. HN has always had trigger-happy moderators who abuse their power to silence people they don't like, including PG himself. Just Google 'Hacker News Shadowban' sometime.
mikeash 9y ago
I think the attention is good. Normal people think of Nazis as 1930s/40s Germans. Now many of them know that it also includes modern Americans.
MBCook 9y ago
Some percentage of people learned the site exists. Some other percent learned there are still a lot of people (relative to what they thought) that believe in nazi principles. This attention would only be bad in my eyes if the first group was bigger than the second.
- gthtjtkt 9y ago
  Neo-Nazis: "We feel unfairly persecuted!" *hosts kick them off the internet* Neo-Nazis (in an angrier tone): "See! We were right!!!" So now they've poked the hornet's nest, added credibility to the neo-nazis' complaints, earned the ire of the EFF, and didn't solve a single problem. Mission Accomplished? When I look at trending political stories today, all I see is mind-boggling stupidity on both sides.
  - MBCook 9y ago
    But again, now the rest of America is more cognizant of the existence of those people. People with a persecution complex are going to view anything that way. Get kicked off? Fits their narrative (or is approval). Ignored? Fits their narrative. Told what they're doing is wrong? Fits their narrative. So if you think this is stupid what would have accomplished the goal of making life harder for them?
jwilk 9y ago
From the HN guidelines: Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.

jlebrech 9y ago

yes but, you cannot access any of it. the downside to them being down is that there's no more proof they were more than just white trolls.

gthtjtkt 9y ago
Yes, but you'll easily find similar sites when you search for it.

lallysingh 9y ago

Why do you think that's why you're being buried?

gthtjtkt 9y ago
Because it happened almost immediately. HN has always had trigger-happy moderators who abuse their power to silence people they don't like, including PG himself. Just Google 'Hacker News Shadowban' sometime.

mikeash 9y ago

I think the attention is good. Normal people think of Nazis as 1930s/40s Germans. Now many of them know that it also includes modern Americans.

MBCook 9y ago

Some percentage of people learned the site exists. Some other percent learned there are still a lot of people (relative to what they thought) that believe in nazi principles. This attention would only be bad in my eyes if the first group was bigger than the second.

gthtjtkt 9y ago
Neo-Nazis: "We feel unfairly persecuted!" *hosts kick them off the internet* Neo-Nazis (in an angrier tone): "See! We were right!!!" So now they've poked the hornet's nest, added credibility to the neo-nazis' complaints, earned the ire of the EFF, and didn't solve a single problem. Mission Accomplished? When I look at trending political stories today, all I see is mind-boggling stupidity on both sides.
- MBCook 9y ago
  But again, now the rest of America is more cognizant of the existence of those people. People with a persecution complex are going to view anything that way. Get kicked off? Fits their narrative (or is approval). Ignored? Fits their narrative. Told what they're doing is wrong? Fits their narrative. So if you think this is stupid what would have accomplished the goal of making life harder for them?

jwilk 9y ago

From the HN guidelines: Please resist commenting about being downvoted. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading.