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Image hosting is easy, if you don't care about losing money. As long as you provide direct links to images, you're better than everybody else. Video hosting? Y

by mandie 9y ago

Image hosting is easy, if you don't care about losing money. As long as you provide direct links to images, you're better than everybody else. Video hosting? You need a good player (nothing will ever top YouTube's) and a good CDN. That's a tough nut to crack. Especially for a company with no money.

cheald 9y ago
The proliferation of HTML5 video support in browsers has made the player massively less of a concern than it used to be. I recently led a move of my employer's video hosting (many TBs worth of video) from a third-party platform to an in-house solution and it was quite a lot simpler than one might expect. Video is super expensive in terms of bandwidth, but the technical pipeline for ingesting, transcoding, delivering, and presenting it is extremely simple now.
- mulmen 9y ago
  On the web the only usable player I interact with is YouTube. No other site has video that I would describe as watchable.
- EpicEng 9y ago
  >extremely simple Yet nearly every time I use a player that isn't YouTube's it stinks. Cursor doesn't disappear. Inconsistent interaction model (does double click move in/out of full screen? Do the arrow keys work? Does 'm' mute? Etc.) It's not just about the ability to play a video, you have to get the UX right as well, and most don't.
  - FridgeSeal 9y ago
    Not just the UX, the performance as well: there are few things more infuriating than going to pause an autoplaying video, but you can't, because it slows down scrolling on the whole web page. Then you finally get your mouse over it and if you're unlucky enough that the controls have disappeared you've got to wait for whatever 1 sec+ latency for them to re-appear. Then you've got to click them - an action once again, slave to huge amounts of latency provided it even works the first time. Then once it's paused (if it had started playing), you've just got to hope that it won't just continue loading the rest of the video in the background.
    - EpicEng 9y ago
      Definitely. Performance at scale is tough to get right here.
      - thomastjeffery 9y ago
        At scale? You only have one player.
        EpicEng 9y ago
        Yeah, fair enough. Forgot we were talking specifically about the player here.
MBCook 9y ago
> nothing will ever top YouTube's A video player that doesn't make me wait a long time before going to full resolution,or that lets me select full resolution when I'll not on desktop, would be a huge plus for me. In the last week goon to YouTube's site on mobile to watch videos has often been broken. Turning off my adblocker doesn't fix it. Going to the desktop site sometimes fixes it. Very off-putting. And you know what I would kill for? A display of how long a video is before I play it. And maybe an indication of if it has sound. I'll point out I don't use any apps and even on mobile I use the desktop site. But YouTube seems to be getting slowly worse, which doesn't really surprise me. Imgur had DEFINITELY gotten WAY worse than even a year or so ago. Good luck to Reddit. This may be a serious improvement.
- pakitan 9y ago
  > And you know what I would kill for? A display of how long a video is before I play it Every youtube video thumbnail has that in the lower right corner.
  - MBCook 9y ago
    Not on mobile. I don't see it until I start playing.
    - pitaj 9y ago
      The mobile app absolutely has that.
      - MBCook 9y ago
        I don't use the app. I mean in Safari. When I click a link that takes me to YouTube I can't see it until I start playing.
- ucho 9y ago
  > Imgur had DEFINITELY gotten WAY worse than even a year or so ago There is vicious cycle with all image hosting services and Imgur(and Photobucket) has reached the last step: 1. Notice all other services are filled with ads and full of bloat 2. Create new, free and very simple image uploading site 3. Site gains popularity 4. Operating costs go through the roof 5. Try to monetize by adding ads or move to paid accounts 6. goto 1
d23 9y ago
> Especially for a company with no money. Reddit doesn't exactly have "no money": https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/31/reddit-just-raised-a-new-round-that-values-the-company-at-1-8-billion/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/31/reddit-just-raised-a-new-r...

by mandie 9y ago

cheald 9y ago

The proliferation of HTML5 video support in browsers has made the player massively less of a concern than it used to be. I recently led a move of my employer's video hosting (many TBs worth of video) from a third-party platform to an in-house solution and it was quite a lot simpler than one might expect. Video is super expensive in terms of bandwidth, but the technical pipeline for ingesting, transcoding, delivering, and presenting it is extremely simple now.

mulmen 9y ago
On the web the only usable player I interact with is YouTube. No other site has video that I would describe as watchable.
EpicEng 9y ago
>extremely simple Yet nearly every time I use a player that isn't YouTube's it stinks. Cursor doesn't disappear. Inconsistent interaction model (does double click move in/out of full screen? Do the arrow keys work? Does 'm' mute? Etc.) It's not just about the ability to play a video, you have to get the UX right as well, and most don't.
- FridgeSeal 9y ago
  Not just the UX, the performance as well: there are few things more infuriating than going to pause an autoplaying video, but you can't, because it slows down scrolling on the whole web page. Then you finally get your mouse over it and if you're unlucky enough that the controls have disappeared you've got to wait for whatever 1 sec+ latency for them to re-appear. Then you've got to click them - an action once again, slave to huge amounts of latency provided it even works the first time. Then once it's paused (if it had started playing), you've just got to hope that it won't just continue loading the rest of the video in the background.
  - EpicEng 9y ago
    Definitely. Performance at scale is tough to get right here.
    - thomastjeffery 9y ago
      At scale? You only have one player.
      - EpicEng 9y ago
        Yeah, fair enough. Forgot we were talking specifically about the player here.

MBCook 9y ago

> nothing will ever top YouTube's A video player that doesn't make me wait a long time before going to full resolution,or that lets me select full resolution when I'll not on desktop, would be a huge plus for me. In the last week goon to YouTube's site on mobile to watch videos has often been broken. Turning off my adblocker doesn't fix it. Going to the desktop site sometimes fixes it. Very off-putting. And you know what I would kill for? A display of how long a video is before I play it. And maybe an indication of if it has sound. I'll point out I don't use any apps and even on mobile I use the desktop site. But YouTube seems to be getting slowly worse, which doesn't really surprise me. Imgur had DEFINITELY gotten WAY worse than even a year or so ago. Good luck to Reddit. This may be a serious improvement.

pakitan 9y ago
> And you know what I would kill for? A display of how long a video is before I play it Every youtube video thumbnail has that in the lower right corner.
- MBCook 9y ago
  Not on mobile. I don't see it until I start playing.
  - pitaj 9y ago
    The mobile app absolutely has that.
    - MBCook 9y ago
      I don't use the app. I mean in Safari. When I click a link that takes me to YouTube I can't see it until I start playing.
ucho 9y ago
> Imgur had DEFINITELY gotten WAY worse than even a year or so ago There is vicious cycle with all image hosting services and Imgur(and Photobucket) has reached the last step: 1. Notice all other services are filled with ads and full of bloat 2. Create new, free and very simple image uploading site 3. Site gains popularity 4. Operating costs go through the roof 5. Try to monetize by adding ads or move to paid accounts 6. goto 1

d23 9y ago

> Especially for a company with no money. Reddit doesn't exactly have "no money": https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/31/reddit-just-raised-a-new-round-that-values-the-company-at-1-8-billion/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/07/31/reddit-just-raised-a-new-r...