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Reliability and implementation ideas aside, MongoDB popularized document stores and document stores can sometimes be a good thing (even if there's usually littl

Reliability and implementation ideas aside, MongoDB popularized document stores and document stores can sometimes be a good thing (even if there's usually little to no reason to prefer them to plain SQL databases for most applications). So they deserve credit there.

GenericsMotors 9y ago
Agreed; though the way they did their marketing early on the message they conveyed was that document databases were here to replace RDBMSs. It was extremely dishonest.
- mattmanser 9y ago
  To be fair to them, it wasn't just them, it was everyone.
  - keithwhor 9y ago
    To be more fair to them, it was just them and the "everyone" you're referring to was a result of a fantastic blatant + guerilla marketing campaign. Or maybe I should say a MEAN success? :)
    - mikekchar 9y ago
      It may seem like that from a certain perspective, but I remember drowning in the hype in 1992. It was going to be the next big thing: everything is going C++; you want objects; why would you store relational tables, when you want objects?; relational databases are just slow, clunky and complicate your code base. The company I was working at even tried it... very briefly :-) Unfortunately, I don't remember what we tried, but there were several around at the time. This stuff wasn't invented by MongoDB.
- pritambaral 9y ago
  > early on the message they conveyed was that document databases were here to replace RDBMSs. The CTO still thinks so. Quote[0]: "MongoDB's CTO disagrees with this statement arguing that nearly 90% of database installations today would benefit from being replaced with MongoDB" [0]: https://www.nemil.com/mongo/2.html https://www.nemil.com/mongo/2.html
ynniv 9y ago
That's only because you forgot about Lotus Notes. Perhaps they will have similar fates.
e12e 9y ago
I thought filsystems popularised document stores ;-)
revmoo 9y ago
Name one reason why you should use MongoDB over something like Postgres with its JSON column type.

GenericsMotors 9y ago

Agreed; though the way they did their marketing early on the message they conveyed was that document databases were here to replace RDBMSs. It was extremely dishonest.

mattmanser 9y ago
To be fair to them, it wasn't just them, it was everyone.
- keithwhor 9y ago
  To be more fair to them, it was just them and the "everyone" you're referring to was a result of a fantastic blatant + guerilla marketing campaign. Or maybe I should say a MEAN success? :)
  - mikekchar 9y ago
    It may seem like that from a certain perspective, but I remember drowning in the hype in 1992. It was going to be the next big thing: everything is going C++; you want objects; why would you store relational tables, when you want objects?; relational databases are just slow, clunky and complicate your code base. The company I was working at even tried it... very briefly :-) Unfortunately, I don't remember what we tried, but there were several around at the time. This stuff wasn't invented by MongoDB.
pritambaral 9y ago
> early on the message they conveyed was that document databases were here to replace RDBMSs. The CTO still thinks so. Quote[0]: "MongoDB's CTO disagrees with this statement arguing that nearly 90% of database installations today would benefit from being replaced with MongoDB" [0]: https://www.nemil.com/mongo/2.html https://www.nemil.com/mongo/2.html

ynniv 9y ago

That's only because you forgot about Lotus Notes. Perhaps they will have similar fates.

e12e 9y ago

I thought filsystems popularised document stores ;-)

revmoo 9y ago

Name one reason why you should use MongoDB over something like Postgres with its JSON column type.