sorry for the rant.. looking at human history it was starches that kept people surviving and striving. there is no real long term data on keto diets. i persona

sorry for the rant.. looking at human history it was starches that kept people surviving and striving. there is no real long term data on keto diets. i personally experimented with high/low carb and the simplified gist is: low carb works because you take away the carbs. high carb works because you take away the fat. protein doesn't really matter. but see for example "whole" from campbell on the potentially negative effect of excess protein. excess is pretty much more than 5-10%. look at graham and many more wfpb 80/10/10 athletes. anyway, i'm currently on high carb, wfpb, tropical fruit. eating sometimes 5000 kcals a day. exercising less than an hour a day. max 5 days a week. spending rest of time at the computer. keeping my weight. 44 years btw. there seem to be non-trivial relationships between the macros. and you need to look at the micro nutrients if you want to support long term health. if you look at how much sicker the general population gets, it's really hard to argue that dairy, eggs and meat are really "healthy". only the greens in keto diets will compensate for the negative effects of animal products. again, see whole, and how not to die and many more. in there you find (by now thousands! of) studies on this. get rid of animal products and stick to fruits and vegetables if you prefer raw food, or starches and vegetables otherwise to avoid burdening your body in the first place. i really don't get how this knowledge has not reach "the computer people". i understand how the industries control the government and "the general population". but "us guys and gals" have the information at our finger tips. so weird.. :-) read up on how the tobacco industry fought like 50 years ago. the same is happening with meat etc. eventually they will have to add the same labels to meat etc like we see on cigarettes today. the government websites already contain warnings about meat, dairy and eggs causing cancer. the industry pays a lot of money to keep the government from promoting a healthy diet. well.. main issue i see with high carb wfpb is that people at some point are really too sick to properly digest grains etc. that's why keto diets work so well for many people. let's wait and see about their long term effect. (then again, on a personal note, i'm hoping all these meat-promoting keto people die of cancer sooner rather than later. it's a karma thing. the cruelty against helpless creatures in meat dairy and egg farms.. not cool.. no matter what you may believe.. not cool..) anyway, i was really f*ed up from unhealthy eating for like 30 years. i got rid of my 30+ years allergies and chronic sinusitis by water and juice fasting for two months. and i settled with a high carb wfpb 80-100% raw diet. raw because i have access to fresh tropical fruits. which isn't a given for everyone in germany.. :-) feeling really good so far. on a side note: but i do consider trying out the Dr. Nun Amen-Ra diet at some point.