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Unless you turn your screen off. Then it's just silence. Lots of it.

notheguyouthink 9y ago
I thought they allowed that? Though, pay only via Red edit: Why the down vote? I was serious - I thought with Youtube Red you could listen with the screen off, am I wrong? Perhaps I misunderstood your screen on statement. edit2: Well, as others confirmed, it is indeed allowed via Youtube Red like I said. So my post being down voted makes no sense, the OP was wrong. Get your shit together HNer. edit3: Well, the down vote has been reverted (or upvoted out of it) - regardless, I probably overreacted. To be clear, I don't care about the "Karma" (I try to recreate accounts somewhat often for privacy), I just get irrationally angry when it feels like people try to silence you for an unexplained reason. It's why I hate Reddit.
- mort96 9y ago
  Just getting YouTube red is a great solution - for those two or so countries where it's available. Most of us here in the non-US part of the world don't really have that option.
  - k_sh 9y ago
    This is payback for everyone else getting Spotify before we did.
  - notheguyouthink 9y ago
    I often forget how broken the web is for the rest of the world. I flip out if a Youtube video isn't "available in my country", I can't imagine seeing that frequently. My sympathies.
- deleted 9y ago
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- Dylan16807 9y ago
  Making you pay to turn your screen off is not "allowing" it in the normal sense. It's valid for someone to see your comment as wrong. And since it's easy to figure out why, you should not get upset over lack of explanation.
  - notheguyouthink 9y ago
    I mean, it's a video service that is paid through visual ads. Expecting free content is a bit entitled, imo. Though, if Youtube was to become "Soundcloud", having Radio specific ads would be a nicely adaptive feature for the "free" audience. However, given that ads are required, screen on vs pay is very reasonable. There is an avenue for screen off, legit and implemented as a feature. > Making you pay to turn your screen off is not "allowing" it in the normal sense. It's valid for someone to see your comment as wrong. I disagree, the feature is there, that someone just doesn't like how to access it. Saying something doesn't exist / isn't allowed is a false statement if it does exist. The requirements for being allowed were not being discussed.
    - Dylan16807 9y ago
      This isn't about presence of ads. They are there either way. I will be looking somewhere else either way. This is purely about annoying the user. > I disagree, the feature is there, that someone just doesn't like how to access it. Saying something doesn't exist / isn't allowed is a false statement if it does exist. The requirements for being allowed were not being discussed. You are not allowed to park here. And by that I mean you are 100% capable of parking here, parking here exists as an option, but you will be fined $75. It's valid to see turning off the screen as "not allowed".
      - notheguyouthink 9y ago
        Well in your parking example, I think the better example would be, "not allowed to park here without a pass". You are allowed to park there, if you have the pass. If someone told me I wasn't allowed, I'd assume there was no way for me to park there. If someone told me I was allowed with requirements, then I know I can, if I can obtain the requirements. However I see your point of capable vs allowed, I just think it's a valid distinction to make. I'd never tell someone that they'd not be allowed to park somewhere, because that's not the complete picture. They might leave, thinking that there's no way for them to park there. That's not true at all, and I'd be in the wrong for misleading them, imo.
azhenley 9y ago
Unless you are a paid subscriber, then it keeps playing!
monocasa 9y ago
Ironically enough I last got bit by that trying to listen to Depeche Mode.
praneshp 9y ago
A happy side-effect of getting YouTube Red was this doesn't happen anymore.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  Yea.. I got down voted for saying the same thing. Thanks for confirming, I thought I was going crazy.
nitrogen 9y ago
Load YouTube in Firefox for Android. Turn off screen. Enjoy music.
komali2 9y ago
Sidenote to all these youtube red comments - probably you're paying for youtube red through your google play music subscription. Just a FYI, you can just use google play music as a youtube music video browser. Helps when for example you're chrome casting to something and don't want to change back and forth between GPM and youtube apps.
aw3c2 9y ago
Thankfully, as Youtube is not using DRM yet, you can simply use a different browser or client to stream or download things however you like, where ever you like and as often as you like. Embrace your freedom.
noir_lord 9y ago
youtube-dl can pull the m4a files, vanilla music on android plays them without re-encoding and my desktops which are all Linux support m4a just fine. It's almost embarrassingly easy to pull a 400 song playlist of the genres I like (outruns and synthwave).
- navs 9y ago
  All I need now is a simple, lightweight youtube browser to find URLs to plug into youtube-dl. In fact you've helped me remember that I haven't donated in a long while.

I thought they allowed that? Though, pay only via Red edit: Why the down vote? I was serious - I thought with Youtube Red you could listen with the screen off, am I wrong? Perhaps I misunderstood your screen on statement. edit2: Well, as others confirmed, it is indeed allowed via Youtube Red like I said. So my post being down voted makes no sense, the OP was wrong. Get your shit together HNer. edit3: Well, the down vote has been reverted (or upvoted out of it) - regardless, I probably overreacted. To be clear, I don't care about the "Karma" (I try to recreate accounts somewhat often for privacy), I just get irrationally angry when it feels like people try to silence you for an unexplained reason. It's why I hate Reddit.

mort96 9y ago
Just getting YouTube red is a great solution - for those two or so countries where it's available. Most of us here in the non-US part of the world don't really have that option.
- k_sh 9y ago
  This is payback for everyone else getting Spotify before we did.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  I often forget how broken the web is for the rest of the world. I flip out if a Youtube video isn't "available in my country", I can't imagine seeing that frequently. My sympathies.
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Dylan16807 9y ago
Making you pay to turn your screen off is not "allowing" it in the normal sense. It's valid for someone to see your comment as wrong. And since it's easy to figure out why, you should not get upset over lack of explanation.
- notheguyouthink 9y ago
  I mean, it's a video service that is paid through visual ads. Expecting free content is a bit entitled, imo. Though, if Youtube was to become "Soundcloud", having Radio specific ads would be a nicely adaptive feature for the "free" audience. However, given that ads are required, screen on vs pay is very reasonable. There is an avenue for screen off, legit and implemented as a feature. > Making you pay to turn your screen off is not "allowing" it in the normal sense. It's valid for someone to see your comment as wrong. I disagree, the feature is there, that someone just doesn't like how to access it. Saying something doesn't exist / isn't allowed is a false statement if it does exist. The requirements for being allowed were not being discussed.
  - Dylan16807 9y ago
    This isn't about presence of ads. They are there either way. I will be looking somewhere else either way. This is purely about annoying the user. > I disagree, the feature is there, that someone just doesn't like how to access it. Saying something doesn't exist / isn't allowed is a false statement if it does exist. The requirements for being allowed were not being discussed. You are not allowed to park here. And by that I mean you are 100% capable of parking here, parking here exists as an option, but you will be fined $75. It's valid to see turning off the screen as "not allowed".
    - notheguyouthink 9y ago
      Well in your parking example, I think the better example would be, "not allowed to park here without a pass". You are allowed to park there, if you have the pass. If someone told me I wasn't allowed, I'd assume there was no way for me to park there. If someone told me I was allowed with requirements, then I know I can, if I can obtain the requirements. However I see your point of capable vs allowed, I just think it's a valid distinction to make. I'd never tell someone that they'd not be allowed to park somewhere, because that's not the complete picture. They might leave, thinking that there's no way for them to park there. That's not true at all, and I'd be in the wrong for misleading them, imo.

azhenley 9y ago

Unless you are a paid subscriber, then it keeps playing!

monocasa 9y ago

Ironically enough I last got bit by that trying to listen to Depeche Mode.

praneshp 9y ago

A happy side-effect of getting YouTube Red was this doesn't happen anymore.

notheguyouthink 9y ago
Yea.. I got down voted for saying the same thing. Thanks for confirming, I thought I was going crazy.

nitrogen 9y ago

Load YouTube in Firefox for Android. Turn off screen. Enjoy music.

komali2 9y ago

Sidenote to all these youtube red comments - probably you're paying for youtube red through your google play music subscription. Just a FYI, you can just use google play music as a youtube music video browser. Helps when for example you're chrome casting to something and don't want to change back and forth between GPM and youtube apps.

aw3c2 9y ago

Thankfully, as Youtube is not using DRM yet, you can simply use a different browser or client to stream or download things however you like, where ever you like and as often as you like. Embrace your freedom.

noir_lord 9y ago

youtube-dl can pull the m4a files, vanilla music on android plays them without re-encoding and my desktops which are all Linux support m4a just fine. It's almost embarrassingly easy to pull a 400 song playlist of the genres I like (outruns and synthwave).

navs 9y ago
All I need now is a simple, lightweight youtube browser to find URLs to plug into youtube-dl. In fact you've helped me remember that I haven't donated in a long while.