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> Now it’s asking investors for $169.5 million at a pre-money enterprise valuation of just $150 million Ouch. I hope they get the money. I really don't want it

by esaym 9y ago

> Now it’s asking investors for $169.5 million at a pre-money enterprise valuation of just $150 million Ouch. I hope they get the money. I really don't want it to go away. I have not found an alternative that has so many 1+ hour long megamixes :(

jmfurlott 9y ago
Youtube is about it, YT Music app for mobile (all unfortunately)
cbhl 9y ago
What about the Internet Archive?
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  An organization would need to be formed that existed and operated outside of jurisdictions friendly to copyright law. Maybe Turkey?
  - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
    Turkey definitely are signatories to international copyright treaties. Last i looked only a few places weren't including Papua New Guinea. TRIPs and Berne are probably the main ones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention
- Figs 9y ago
  SoundCloud blocked them from making a backup copy of the site. Source: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/888093838107189249 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/888093838107189249 I don't know why.
  - k-mcgrady 9y ago
    >> I don't know why. Wouldn't that be mass copyright infringement that Soundcloud would have a duty to prevent?
dbcooper 9y ago
Try https://hearthis.at https://hearthis.at
caoilte 9y ago
I've always got my mixes from mixcloud. Never really saw what differentiated soundcloud.
- wiredearp 9y ago
  Well, if the uploader remembered to enable that setting, you can download the mixes in a much better quality than the 128 kbps streaming quality that both services use. Sometimes even in WAV of FLAC format. This was not possible on Mixcloud the last time(s) I looked, but do speak up if you know it to be possible! Without this option, you (obviously) risk loosing your favorite mixes whenever the funding runs out of the service, so I believe this to be a differentiating factor. Apart from how it sounds when you play it back on a real stereo setup, of course.
- thirdsun 9y ago
  As someone who uses both platforms and actually prefers Mixcloud as a product, the user base is simply not there. I see much more engagement on Soundcloud. Maybe it's different for other creators, artists, DJs, but I'd guess that's a very common experience when comparing both services.
  - matclayton 9y ago
    Mixcloud founder here, thanks its appreciated. Theres one big different on engagement, we tend to see lower play counts, but higher number of minutes listened per play. You'll start to see us surfacing this data more in the upcoming months, and I expect everyone to be pleasantly surprised.
    - wiredearp 9y ago
      Since you are here, can you also surface anything about potential plans for offering an improved (and possibly paid-for) streaming quality and/or offering the mixes available for download? I'm in it for the mixes and I want to love Mixcloud, but there is only so much fun to be had with discovering a mix that cannot be played on a quality stereo and/or in a place without internet connection (so at the party, in other words) and those will in any case go on my priority list if and when Soundcloud finally goes down.

by esaym 9y ago

jmfurlott 9y ago

Youtube is about it, YT Music app for mobile (all unfortunately)

cbhl 9y ago

What about the Internet Archive?

toomuchtodo 9y ago
An organization would need to be formed that existed and operated outside of jurisdictions friendly to copyright law. Maybe Turkey?
- pbhjpbhj 9y ago
  Turkey definitely are signatories to international copyright treaties. Last i looked only a few places weren't including Papua New Guinea. TRIPs and Berne are probably the main ones. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berne_Convention
Figs 9y ago
SoundCloud blocked them from making a backup copy of the site. Source: https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/888093838107189249 https://twitter.com/textfiles/status/888093838107189249 I don't know why.
- k-mcgrady 9y ago
  >> I don't know why. Wouldn't that be mass copyright infringement that Soundcloud would have a duty to prevent?

dbcooper 9y ago

Try https://hearthis.at https://hearthis.at

caoilte 9y ago

I've always got my mixes from mixcloud. Never really saw what differentiated soundcloud.

wiredearp 9y ago
Well, if the uploader remembered to enable that setting, you can download the mixes in a much better quality than the 128 kbps streaming quality that both services use. Sometimes even in WAV of FLAC format. This was not possible on Mixcloud the last time(s) I looked, but do speak up if you know it to be possible! Without this option, you (obviously) risk loosing your favorite mixes whenever the funding runs out of the service, so I believe this to be a differentiating factor. Apart from how it sounds when you play it back on a real stereo setup, of course.
thirdsun 9y ago
As someone who uses both platforms and actually prefers Mixcloud as a product, the user base is simply not there. I see much more engagement on Soundcloud. Maybe it's different for other creators, artists, DJs, but I'd guess that's a very common experience when comparing both services.
- matclayton 9y ago
  Mixcloud founder here, thanks its appreciated. Theres one big different on engagement, we tend to see lower play counts, but higher number of minutes listened per play. You'll start to see us surfacing this data more in the upcoming months, and I expect everyone to be pleasantly surprised.
  - wiredearp 9y ago
    Since you are here, can you also surface anything about potential plans for offering an improved (and possibly paid-for) streaming quality and/or offering the mixes available for download? I'm in it for the mixes and I want to love Mixcloud, but there is only so much fun to be had with discovering a mix that cannot be played on a quality stereo and/or in a place without internet connection (so at the party, in other words) and those will in any case go on my priority list if and when Soundcloud finally goes down.