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"One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the av
by k_sze 9y ago
"One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female with choosen make-up and dress."
I'm sure everybody here will appreciate this nice nugget of gentlemanly wisdom.
(Should I add </sarcasm> here?)
- mondoshawan 9y agoComparisons like this always make me cringe. Do we have to use women as the comparison for things like this? As a woman in tech, this kind of comparison almost always makes me want to disengage.
- deleted 9y ago[deleted]
- laumars 9y agoAs a man in tech I still had the same reaction. At best it just screams amature hour. At worst it is downright misogynistic. Frankly, to me it comes off a little of both. The only redeeming thing here is that quote wasn't made by the GNUstep maintainers but from the comments section on the blog. However the GNUstep maintainers should have known better than to include said quote on their homepage.
- abrowne 9y agoAs a person in the world I had the same reaction!
- pjmlp 9y agoAs man in tech, that had the pleasure of working with very good fellow technical females, I fully agree with you. We don't need stuff that turns good professionals away from our field.
- _jal 9y agoDon't blame you a bit. I do dismiss people like this - life is too short for dealing with them, even the ones who are clueless rather than actively hostile. Suggestion for clueless men who think this makes you look worldly or cool: if you can easily substitute inanimate objects in your metaphor that otherwise involves the dehumanizing half the planet, do so. You might eventually become actually worldly and cool someday if you start practicing now. If, on the other hand, the esteem and praise of 14 year old boys and men who still act like them is all you care about, please, by all means, keep it up. It makes my life easier when people I don't want to be around advertise.
- stillhere 9y agoYou're free to make your own comparisons to whatever you want. He obviously likes women. Woops.
- dang 9y agoWe've banned this account for posting trollish flamebait. These threads are toxic enough without people pouring toxins in on purpose.
- dang 9y agoIt makes me cringe too. How deaf and gross.
- CJefferson 9y agoWow, just wow. If I was trying to offend my wife, writing a joke sexist piece, I don't think I could do better.
- cmiles74 9y agoThis should be cut ASAP. There are other ways to get this idea across without making it weird.
- Fnoord 9y agoAs if make-up or a dress is required for a woman to look good.
- simonh 9y agoThat's really not the point. Women's looks just shouldn't be part of the conversation at all. It's completely irrelevant to the issue at hand and it being part of the conversation in any sense can only be offensive. That's why you're being downvoted, not by me but I completely get why people are doing it.
- Fnoord 9y agoI respectfully disagree. I find it extremely relevant. It underlines the misogyny. This became part of the discussion the moment GNUstep added that to their website, and a user here quoted it (without being downmodded).
- dang 9y agoThe user obviously quoted it because he or she disagreed with it, and no doubt the upvoters felt the same way. I think it's fair to add that the maintainer heard the point and (rightly) said he would change that paragraph.
- geofft 9y ago> the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female So there's two categories here, "person" and "female"? What are we, Ferengi?
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- mpg515 9y agoMy favorite part is the writer self-implicating they are an "expert" in looking at women.
- simonh 9y agoIt just reeks of "nasty little schoolboy". You could almost wish the author will learn better when they eventually grow up, except of course we know they haven't.
- ajmarsh 9y agoGNUstep is like a barn find Corvette. Sure it has rust on the frame and the paint is ugly and the upholstery ruined. However, it's low miles on the original engine. With a bit of work could be an extremely valuable show car. I feel like cars make a better analogy.
- alexmyczko 9y agoif you dont mind i can take your comparison to replace the other...
- graphitezepp 9y agoExpresses the precisely same sentiment while objectifying, you know, an object instead of a person.
- torrent-of-ions 9y agoComparisons like this always make me cringe. Do we have to use cars as the comparison for things like this? As a person who identifies as a car in tech, this kind of comparison almost always makes me want to disengage.
- new299 9y agoYes, I find that quote quite offensive. This page is not from the official GNUStep project, and doesn't seem to be written by a GNUStep developer. However the quote is from a comment by web developer associated with GNUStep. That's unfortunate.