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I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that he is looking at this backwards. If his goal is not to actually implement the algorithm, but just to discuss or under

I'm not a lawyer, but it seems to me that he is looking at this backwards. If his goal is not to actually implement the algorithm, but just to discuss or understand it, he can use the lawyers to his advantage. He's already received the two US patent numbers, which contain published (and freely publishable) text describing the algorithm in great detail. And, since the lawyers are interested in the international implications, it should be simple for them to provide a list of (or better yet, the full text of) all international patents granted or applied for. My point is not that software patents (or patents in general) are good or bad or harmful or useful. My point is that, for better or worse, a patent represents an exchange-- the inventor is granted a limited-time monopoly on the implementation of an innovation in exchange for publication of the details.

willvarfar 16y ago
didn't the Dutch lawyer say he could get fined? If it's your nuts on the block, would you have the guts to stand up to them?
- alextingle 16y ago
  He should find a different lawyer.
  - ra 16y ago
    agreed
    - ANINDIAN 16y ago
      cant we just copy it and post it on a shady website such as 4chan or something. And then use site like Metaoptimizee.com/qa/ which is a machine learning Q&A website to publicize it!
  - lena 16y ago
    What do you think a different lawyer would say/do? Mr Engelfriet is perhaps the most respected Dutch lawyer on intellectual property and other digital rights, it is not just somebody.
- jrnkntl 16y ago
  I'm not sure but the lawyer doesn't explicitly say that it will be a 'fine'. The translation is a bit off but actually he says that the lawsuit will deal around a substantial amount of money.
- Confusion 16y ago
  No, he just gave the usual advice: if you don't comply and they decide to litigate, it could become an expensive affair, just because you are forced to defend yourself.
joe_the_user 16y ago
"Landmark also requests that in the future you do not ship, deploy or post any portions or versions of this code in its current state or in any modified state." Here, the lawyer is demanding that he not discuss the method whose "publicness" is the public good supposedly given in exchange for the patent.

willvarfar 16y ago

didn't the Dutch lawyer say he could get fined? If it's your nuts on the block, would you have the guts to stand up to them?

alextingle 16y ago
He should find a different lawyer.
- ra 16y ago
  agreed
  - ANINDIAN 16y ago
    cant we just copy it and post it on a shady website such as 4chan or something. And then use site like Metaoptimizee.com/qa/ which is a machine learning Q&A website to publicize it!
- lena 16y ago
  What do you think a different lawyer would say/do? Mr Engelfriet is perhaps the most respected Dutch lawyer on intellectual property and other digital rights, it is not just somebody.
jrnkntl 16y ago
I'm not sure but the lawyer doesn't explicitly say that it will be a 'fine'. The translation is a bit off but actually he says that the lawsuit will deal around a substantial amount of money.
Confusion 16y ago
No, he just gave the usual advice: if you don't comply and they decide to litigate, it could become an expensive affair, just because you are forced to defend yourself.

joe_the_user 16y ago

"Landmark also requests that in the future you do not ship, deploy or post any portions or versions of this code in its current state or in any modified state." Here, the lawyer is demanding that he not discuss the method whose "publicness" is the public good supposedly given in exchange for the patent.