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Please be more civil and careful with your language. You just called another member of your community a bigot for being a member of a particular political part

by toufka 9y ago

Please be more civil and careful with your language. You just called another member of your community a bigot for being a member of a particular political party, not even for their particular beliefs. A bigot is precisely, "a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance."

kevingadd 9y ago
Read the party's official platform sometime, or maybe just a few tweets from the president.
- Spivak 9y ago
  Maybe you should read the Republican platform. I'm going to pull a few at random from https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/ https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/ - A simplified tax code along with tax cuts with the goal of growing the market. - Fairer trade agreements that put American workers first. - Ease the process of home ownership. - Investment in transportation and electric infrastructure. - Investment in, and promoting education in STEM. - Fostering growth in start-ups and small business. - Right to gun ownership. - Right to free speech. - Right to privacy. - Right to life. - Congressional term limits. I don't agree with a lot of it but it seems they're far from monsters. They're pretty up front about what they believe and why.
  - sitkack 9y ago
    The Constitution of Mexico is probably the best written in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Mexico https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Mexico
  - kevingadd 9y ago
    I respectfully disagree with your opinion here, as their official platform and statements also contain many things that a typical american might describe as bigoted or harmful. This single article (near the top of the search results for 'gop platform transgender' just to pick one) contains quite a few real examples: http://www.hrc.org/blog/republican-national-convention-2016-platform-takes-harsh-stance-against-lgb http://www.hrc.org/blog/republican-national-convention-2016-... Furthermore, the bigotry and discrimination in the GOP platform is well supported by the actual conduct of republican lawmakers in the house and senate. An individual's right to hold their own opinions on these matters - regardless of how much I might agree with them - is one matter, but it's intellectually dishonest to pretend nothing objectionable is a part of the modern GOP platform. I say this as someone who voted GOP in the past.
  - albinofrenchy 9y ago
    I agree you shouldn't call people bigots for association to a given political party, but lets not white wash the GOP's platform: - Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law The implication here being that letting gay people get married is going to erode our foundation as a free society and obliterate all of our values as a culture. There are plenty of other callouts in that document to homophobic non-sense.

by toufka 9y ago

kevingadd 9y ago

Read the party's official platform sometime, or maybe just a few tweets from the president.

Spivak 9y ago
Maybe you should read the Republican platform. I'm going to pull a few at random from https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/ https://www.gop.com/the-2016-republican-party-platform/ - A simplified tax code along with tax cuts with the goal of growing the market. - Fairer trade agreements that put American workers first. - Ease the process of home ownership. - Investment in transportation and electric infrastructure. - Investment in, and promoting education in STEM. - Fostering growth in start-ups and small business. - Right to gun ownership. - Right to free speech. - Right to privacy. - Right to life. - Congressional term limits. I don't agree with a lot of it but it seems they're far from monsters. They're pretty up front about what they believe and why.
- sitkack 9y ago
  The Constitution of Mexico is probably the best written in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Mexico https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Mexico
- kevingadd 9y ago
  I respectfully disagree with your opinion here, as their official platform and statements also contain many things that a typical american might describe as bigoted or harmful. This single article (near the top of the search results for 'gop platform transgender' just to pick one) contains quite a few real examples: http://www.hrc.org/blog/republican-national-convention-2016-platform-takes-harsh-stance-against-lgb http://www.hrc.org/blog/republican-national-convention-2016-... Furthermore, the bigotry and discrimination in the GOP platform is well supported by the actual conduct of republican lawmakers in the house and senate. An individual's right to hold their own opinions on these matters - regardless of how much I might agree with them - is one matter, but it's intellectually dishonest to pretend nothing objectionable is a part of the modern GOP platform. I say this as someone who voted GOP in the past.
- albinofrenchy 9y ago
  I agree you shouldn't call people bigots for association to a given political party, but lets not white wash the GOP's platform: - Traditional marriage and family, based on marriage between one man and one woman, is the foundation for a free society and has for millennia been entrusted with rearing children and instilling cultural values. We condemn the Supreme Court’s ruling in United States v. Windsor, which wrongly removed the ability of Congress to define marriage policy in federal law The implication here being that letting gay people get married is going to erode our foundation as a free society and obliterate all of our values as a culture. There are plenty of other callouts in that document to homophobic non-sense.