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I think ive read enough LKML to realize name calling doesn't slow software development and free software devs can handle being told off once in a while.

mb720 9y ago
When I provide code for free I want to be treated with respect. There's evidence that this is not always the case when working on the Linux Kernel. Of course, when somebody introduces bugs, that's a problem and should be talked about. But you can do that respectfully without sugarcoating the affair.
- MBCook 9y ago
  This author wants to be treated with respect. They want to be to able to use free software too. But the projects are basically telling them 'too bad'. And when projects break stuff that's critical to his/her use the response is... oh well. If anyone ever fixes it we'll take the patch. That's not how you treat people, especially if you want them in your community. This isn't someone complaining that the 'close' button window control was moved to the wrong side. They've lost their ability to use a large chunk of free software and no one (more or less) cares. And they're probably frustrated as hell.
  - mb720 9y ago
    The comment you refer to was about how programmers getting yelled at on the mailing list of the Linux kernel and how that's not OK. The comment you refer to wasn't at all about Qt and the article about accessibility.
whyever 9y ago
> free software devs can handle being told off once in a while. That's survival bias: Those who can't are not Linux devs.
CJefferson 9y ago
I left GCC development after being ranted at. You just see the people who hang around.
jnbiche 9y ago
> free software devs can handle being told off once in a while That's bullshit. I mean, that's one of the main reasons I never bothered submitting a patch for Linux. Many of us really don't like being told off for what we're doing as a volunteer. I reluctantly can accept a limited amount of abuse for a paid project, but my tolerance for abuse for what I do as a volunteer is zero.

mb720 9y ago

When I provide code for free I want to be treated with respect. There's evidence that this is not always the case when working on the Linux Kernel. Of course, when somebody introduces bugs, that's a problem and should be talked about. But you can do that respectfully without sugarcoating the affair.

MBCook 9y ago
This author wants to be treated with respect. They want to be to able to use free software too. But the projects are basically telling them 'too bad'. And when projects break stuff that's critical to his/her use the response is... oh well. If anyone ever fixes it we'll take the patch. That's not how you treat people, especially if you want them in your community. This isn't someone complaining that the 'close' button window control was moved to the wrong side. They've lost their ability to use a large chunk of free software and no one (more or less) cares. And they're probably frustrated as hell.
- mb720 9y ago
  The comment you refer to was about how programmers getting yelled at on the mailing list of the Linux kernel and how that's not OK. The comment you refer to wasn't at all about Qt and the article about accessibility.

whyever 9y ago

> free software devs can handle being told off once in a while. That's survival bias: Those who can't are not Linux devs.

CJefferson 9y ago

I left GCC development after being ranted at. You just see the people who hang around.

jnbiche 9y ago

> free software devs can handle being told off once in a while That's bullshit. I mean, that's one of the main reasons I never bothered submitting a patch for Linux. Many of us really don't like being told off for what we're doing as a volunteer. I reluctantly can accept a limited amount of abuse for a paid project, but my tolerance for abuse for what I do as a volunteer is zero.