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Men are, by far, more violent. This is a major weakness, or "defect". Why women shouldn't have their own, peculiar, weaknesses? I think that even psychiatric co

by epx 9y ago

Men are, by far, more violent. This is a major weakness, or "defect". Why women shouldn't have their own, peculiar, weaknesses? I think that even psychiatric conditions like depression, borderline, ADD, etc. manifest very differently in men and women.

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Nokinside 9y ago
Statistically women appear to have less deviation physically, mentally or socially. It could be a result of how primates have evolved. For males increasing standard deviation in traits makes it more likely that they are among the few top males that can mate with multiple females. For female being more robust ensures maximum number of children. Women have both glass ceiling and glass floor. There are far less successful women, but there are also far less women living in the streets.
- cherry_su 9y ago
  Some variation could be explained by the existence of a second X chromosome. This redundancy hides variation that could otherwise be exposed by a recessive gene on a male's sole X chromosome, without the chance of a dominant gene on the second X chromosome to mask it.
- torrent-of-ions 9y ago
  Have you ever wondered what the point of males is? We take it for granted and many of us probably think males are actually necessary for reproduction but, of course, they are not. Many organisms reproduce just fine without sex. Those that do have sex end up with 50% of the population unable to reproduce. That's an incredible cost, so what is the advantage? Many biologists study sex and it's one of the most fascinating questions out there. The general theory is that producing males allows the organism to try out some really wacky stuff. You can't play around too much with females. If your children are female and they can't reproduce then that's the end of your line. So the selective pressure on female offspring being good is high. It's a different story for males. You only need one good male and you're set. So if you produce 10 males, 6 might be average, 2 exceptional, and 2 complete failures (in evolutionary terms). Those 2 exceptional specimens will pick up the slack for the others. Not only that, but those two exceptional specimens will reproduce more than any set of males that were all average (like a set of females). So not only is there no selective pressure to produce 100% "good" males, there is a strong advantage to producing a few exceptional males. The trouble is, modern feminists only look at the few exceptional males (the CEOs, Nobel prize winners etc.) and whine about it. The other end of the spectrum, the men on the street or committing suicide, are completely invisible to them.
dogma1138 9y ago
Men are more physically violent I'm not entirely sure that if we take into account all types of violence that this would still be the case. Latest studies into domestic abuse also hint that there is almost equal parity between men and women as both the victim and the abuser.
- epx 9y ago
  Indeed, but domestic physical violence, or threat thereof, is still a bigger problem. If I feel emotionally abused, I threat a visit to a divorce lawyer. On the other hand, if you get a death threat, the remedy is not that easy, because you won't get 24x7 police protection, now what? Not that emotional abuse is not a problem; I dare to say that we men are not sufficiently educated to cope with that, personally I got enough of 1980's "women do no wrong" feminism flavor. I started to see my father's POV when I became husband and father myself - big wake-up call. But physical violence is still more of a problem.
  - LyndsySimon 9y ago
    > if you get a death threat, the remedy is not that easy, because you won't get 24x7 police protection, now what? Buy a gun, learn how to use it, and carry it. I don't mean to bring gun (control|rights) into this conversation lightly. I'm the father of two young daughters and I'm extremely cognizant of the fact that they will likely always be physically weaker than the men in their lives. Firearms make physical size almost completely irrelevant.
- micahbright 9y ago
  Actually, there is some research showing women are equally physically violent in domestic situations. Men just go to jail more. But, anyone will point out that if black men go to jail more than white men, it means there is a systemic bias against black men.
  - micahbright 9y ago
    According to Dr. B. H. Hoff's (2012, National Study CDC/DOJ) Report on the National Violence Against Women Survey (notice there's no report on violence against men as anyone who spent money on such research would never be funded again - that's not an assumption, it's spelled out in print), 42.3% of victimized men, over 2 million men, are subjected to "severe physical violence" every year.
LyndsySimon 9y ago
> This is a major weakness, or "defect". While I agree than men are more prone to violent tendencies than women, as a group, I don't know that I agree that this predisposition is a weakness.
- epx 9y ago
  My English is limited, so I don't have the right word for that. And of course it was not a weakness in tougher ancient times. I read once that physical violence perpetrated by men upon women was actually NOT that common some centuries ago. Some say it is a reaction to urban/dull life; when life was more violent outside, everybody behaved inside the house. I take this with a huge grain of salt, but it an interesting hypothesis.
kamaal 9y ago
>>Men are, by far, more violent. Actually men are more aggressive. The issue is you don't always get good things out of a particular trait. Violence is negative outcome of aggression. On the positive note, aggression and its many forms can make you proactive, driven and a range of other things that are also very crucial for success.
torrent-of-ions 9y ago
Because women actually don't see that to be a weakness in men.
nostromo123 9y ago
This is not a "defect"! A man should be potentially dangerous: for instance, I want to know that I can rely on my partner to have my back in case we get in some dubious situation. I'm a woman, and I don't want to be together with just a copy of myself that happens to have an extra collection of dangly bits in the pants ;-) I acknowledge that there are physical/mental differences between us, and the goal should be to complement each other, not make men more "feminine" or whatever.

by epx 9y ago

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Nokinside 9y ago

Statistically women appear to have less deviation physically, mentally or socially. It could be a result of how primates have evolved. For males increasing standard deviation in traits makes it more likely that they are among the few top males that can mate with multiple females. For female being more robust ensures maximum number of children. Women have both glass ceiling and glass floor. There are far less successful women, but there are also far less women living in the streets.

cherry_su 9y ago
Some variation could be explained by the existence of a second X chromosome. This redundancy hides variation that could otherwise be exposed by a recessive gene on a male's sole X chromosome, without the chance of a dominant gene on the second X chromosome to mask it.
torrent-of-ions 9y ago
Have you ever wondered what the point of males is? We take it for granted and many of us probably think males are actually necessary for reproduction but, of course, they are not. Many organisms reproduce just fine without sex. Those that do have sex end up with 50% of the population unable to reproduce. That's an incredible cost, so what is the advantage? Many biologists study sex and it's one of the most fascinating questions out there. The general theory is that producing males allows the organism to try out some really wacky stuff. You can't play around too much with females. If your children are female and they can't reproduce then that's the end of your line. So the selective pressure on female offspring being good is high. It's a different story for males. You only need one good male and you're set. So if you produce 10 males, 6 might be average, 2 exceptional, and 2 complete failures (in evolutionary terms). Those 2 exceptional specimens will pick up the slack for the others. Not only that, but those two exceptional specimens will reproduce more than any set of males that were all average (like a set of females). So not only is there no selective pressure to produce 100% "good" males, there is a strong advantage to producing a few exceptional males. The trouble is, modern feminists only look at the few exceptional males (the CEOs, Nobel prize winners etc.) and whine about it. The other end of the spectrum, the men on the street or committing suicide, are completely invisible to them.

dogma1138 9y ago

Men are more physically violent I'm not entirely sure that if we take into account all types of violence that this would still be the case. Latest studies into domestic abuse also hint that there is almost equal parity between men and women as both the victim and the abuser.

epx 9y ago
Indeed, but domestic physical violence, or threat thereof, is still a bigger problem. If I feel emotionally abused, I threat a visit to a divorce lawyer. On the other hand, if you get a death threat, the remedy is not that easy, because you won't get 24x7 police protection, now what? Not that emotional abuse is not a problem; I dare to say that we men are not sufficiently educated to cope with that, personally I got enough of 1980's "women do no wrong" feminism flavor. I started to see my father's POV when I became husband and father myself - big wake-up call. But physical violence is still more of a problem.
- LyndsySimon 9y ago
  > if you get a death threat, the remedy is not that easy, because you won't get 24x7 police protection, now what? Buy a gun, learn how to use it, and carry it. I don't mean to bring gun (control|rights) into this conversation lightly. I'm the father of two young daughters and I'm extremely cognizant of the fact that they will likely always be physically weaker than the men in their lives. Firearms make physical size almost completely irrelevant.
micahbright 9y ago
Actually, there is some research showing women are equally physically violent in domestic situations. Men just go to jail more. But, anyone will point out that if black men go to jail more than white men, it means there is a systemic bias against black men.
- micahbright 9y ago
  According to Dr. B. H. Hoff's (2012, National Study CDC/DOJ) Report on the National Violence Against Women Survey (notice there's no report on violence against men as anyone who spent money on such research would never be funded again - that's not an assumption, it's spelled out in print), 42.3% of victimized men, over 2 million men, are subjected to "severe physical violence" every year.

LyndsySimon 9y ago

> This is a major weakness, or "defect". While I agree than men are more prone to violent tendencies than women, as a group, I don't know that I agree that this predisposition is a weakness.

epx 9y ago
My English is limited, so I don't have the right word for that. And of course it was not a weakness in tougher ancient times. I read once that physical violence perpetrated by men upon women was actually NOT that common some centuries ago. Some say it is a reaction to urban/dull life; when life was more violent outside, everybody behaved inside the house. I take this with a huge grain of salt, but it an interesting hypothesis.

kamaal 9y ago

>>Men are, by far, more violent. Actually men are more aggressive. The issue is you don't always get good things out of a particular trait. Violence is negative outcome of aggression. On the positive note, aggression and its many forms can make you proactive, driven and a range of other things that are also very crucial for success.

torrent-of-ions 9y ago

Because women actually don't see that to be a weakness in men.

nostromo123 9y ago

This is not a "defect"! A man should be potentially dangerous: for instance, I want to know that I can rely on my partner to have my back in case we get in some dubious situation. I'm a woman, and I don't want to be together with just a copy of myself that happens to have an extra collection of dangly bits in the pants ;-) I acknowledge that there are physical/mental differences between us, and the goal should be to complement each other, not make men more "feminine" or whatever.