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Can we all switch to Xeons and <whatever server CPUs AMD has out now>? Or do those have similar issues?
by emh68 9y ago
Can we all switch to Xeons and <whatever server CPUs AMD has out now>? Or do those have similar issues?
- dijit 9y agoKaby Lake Xeons exist. Source: I have one in my Precision 5520.
- sofaofthedamned 9y agoNo idea, but honestly I can't be arsed anymore with new stuff when it's so unreliable. This is from a few minutes ago (the timestamps are hours old, but that's because dmesg timestamps don't take into account sleep time) [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ------------[ cut here ]------------ [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] WARNING: CPU: 0 PID: 16026 at drivers/base/firmware_class.c:1225 _request_firmware+0x51f/0x8a0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] Modules linked in: ccm rfcomm fuse xt_CHECKSUM ipt_MASQUERADE nf_nat_masquerade_ipv4 tun xt_addrtype nf_conntrack_netbios_ns nf_conntrack_broadcast xt_CT ip6t_rpfilter ip6t_REJECT nf_reject_ipv6 ip_set nfnetlink ebtable_nat ebtable_broute ip6table_nat nf_conntrack_ipv6 nf_defrag_ipv6 nf_nat_ipv6 xt_conntrack ip6table_mangle ip6table_raw br_netfilter bridge stp llc overlay ip6table_security iptable_nat nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_defrag_ipv4 nf_nat_ipv4 nf_nat nf_conntrack libcrc32c iptable_mangle iptable_raw iptable_security ebtable_filter ebtables ip6table_filter ip6_tables cmac bnep sunrpc arc4 uvcvideo videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops videobuf2_v4l2 videobuf2_core videodev media btusb btrtl snd_soc_skl snd_soc_skl_ipc snd_soc_sst_ipc snd_soc_sst_dsp snd_hda_ext_core dell_wmi wmi_bmof snd_soc_sst_match [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] tpm_crb snd_hda_codec_hdmi snd_hda_codec_realtek snd_soc_core snd_hda_codec_generic snd_compress snd_pcm_dmaengine ac97_bus iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support hid_multitouch mei_wdt dell_laptop dell_smbios dcdbas intel_rapl x86_pkg_temp_thermal intel_powerclamp coretemp kvm_intel kvm ath10k_pci ath10k_core irqbypass crct10dif_pclmul crc32_pclmul mac80211 ghash_clmulni_intel intel_cstate intel_uncore intel_rapl_perf ath cfg80211 joydev snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec rtsx_pci_ms snd_hda_core memstick snd_hwdep snd_seq snd_seq_device snd_pcm snd_timer snd i2c_i801 soundcore hci_uart intel_pch_thermal mei_me btbcm idma64 btqca mei shpchp processor_thermal_device btintel intel_soc_dts_iosf intel_lpss_pci bluetooth wmi soc_button_array intel_vbtn tpm_tis tpm_tis_core ecdh_generic pinctrl_sunrisepoint [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] rfkill int3403_thermal intel_lpss_acpi pinctrl_intel intel_lpss intel_hid int340x_thermal_zone int3400_thermal tpm acpi_als acpi_thermal_rel sparse_keymap kfifo_buf industrialio acpi_pad rtsx_pci_sdmmc mmc_core i915 crc32c_intel i2c_algo_bit drm_kms_helper serio_raw drm nvme nvme_core rtsx_pci i2c_hid video [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] CPU: 0 PID: 16026 Comm: kworker/u9:0 Not tainted 4.13.0-0.rc3.git1.2.fc27.x86_64 #1 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] Hardware name: Dell Inc. XPS 13 9360/0839Y6, BIOS 1.3.7 07/04/2017 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] Workqueue: hci0 hci_power_on [bluetooth] [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] task: ffff9d2bf69e8000 task.stack: ffffb77c07014000 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] RIP: 0010:_request_firmware+0x51f/0x8a0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] RSP: 0000:ffffb77c07017c50 EFLAGS: 00010282 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] RAX: 000000000000002c RBX: ffffb77c07017d18 RCX: 0000000000000000 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] RDX: 0000000000000000 RSI: ffff9d2cff40e118 RDI: ffff9d2cff40e118 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] RBP: ffffb77c07017cc0 R08: 0000000000000487 R09: 0000000000000007 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] R10: fffff404518d9200 R11: ffffffff94313aed R12: ffff9d2c81d13ae0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] R13: ffffb77c07017d10 R14: ffff9d2c94f424e8 R15: ffff9d2c695de068 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] FS: 0000000000000000(0000) GS:ffff9d2cff400000(0000) knlGS:0000000000000000 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] CS: 0010 DS: 0000 ES: 0000 CR0: 0000000080050033 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] CR2: 000000fd4a1b4b48 CR3: 00000004536d4000 CR4: 00000000003406f0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] Call Trace: [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? snprintf+0x45/0x70 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] request_firmware+0x37/0x50 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] btusb_setup_qca+0x22d/0x410 [btusb] [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? __pm_runtime_resume+0x5b/0x80 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] btusb_open+0x45/0x250 [btusb] [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] hci_dev_do_open+0x6c/0x590 [bluetooth] [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? try_to_wake_up+0x59/0x470 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] hci_power_on+0x4e/0x200 [bluetooth] [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? lock_timer_base+0x81/0xa0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] process_one_work+0x193/0x3c0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] worker_thread+0x4a/0x3a0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] kthread+0x125/0x140 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? process_one_work+0x3c0/0x3c0 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ? kthread_park+0x60/0x60 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ret_from_fork+0x25/0x30 [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] Code: 08 48 83 fb 28 74 45 48 8b 8b a0 ee aa 93 e9 e6 fe ff ff 48 c7 c7 a0 ad fa 93 e8 4d 71 2f 00 48 c7 c7 88 15 cf 93 e8 42 86 b6 ff <0f> ff 41 b9 90 ff ff ff e9 06 fd ff ff 48 c7 45 a8 ff ff ff 7f [Sat Aug 5 13:46:21 2017] ---[ end trace ff5be3b6989ab935 ]---
- andy_ppp 9y agoPlease consider using gists or something for things like this!
- sofaofthedamned 9y agoGood point!
- diegoprzl 9y agoModern hardware is unreliable, especially under GNU/Linux. Ryzen didn't give me any problem under Windows, but GNU/Linux.. the same can be said of Skylake/Broadwell i915 gpu driver. Both my Thinkpad T450s and X250 are not able to get past a few weeks uptime while using Debian. Under Windows they can go on for months.
- BenjiWiebe 9y agoFunny, I've got several Linux systems and the limiting factor to uptime is power outages.
- diegoprzl 9y agoMy anecdotal experience is that I can get better uptime using Windows rather than Linux in consumer computers. The i915 bug made me end up using a Windows host with Debian in a virtual machine, just so I could trust that my computer would not freeze every few weeks. With older computers (T420, X201) and Xeon servers I got months and even years uptime. Maybe I just got unlucky with my recent acquisitions or maybe the complexity of the new hardware together with the lack of support for Linux means that these kind of bugs are and will become more prevalent in consumer hardware.
- lelandbatey 9y agoI find your experience intriguing, since I've never been able to get my windows installations to reliably provide solid uptime. I've had many issues with inconsistent performance, stuttering, and "slow degradation" of Windows, while even the 3-4 year old linux installs feel quite snappy. At this point I suspect getting reliable computers is a lottery.