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This is a super simplistic view. This is not like pot. This is not a drug that you can eve use casually. There is no moral legal framework in which these dru

This is a super simplistic view. This is not like pot. This is not a drug that you can eve use casually. There is no moral legal framework in which these drugs can be freely bought. After you are on these drugs, you are no longer able to make free choices. I agree that users should be receiving treatment. But anyone selling or importing these drugs absolutely deserves to be punished harshly -- they are destroying millions of lives.

stickfigure 9y ago
After you are on these drugs, you are no longer able to make free choices. I don't buy it. I heard exactly this being said about cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, ecstasy, and yes marijuana in the 80s. Reefer Madness was not a parody movie, and let's not forget that pot is still officially Schedule I in the US. I'm not saying that all drugs require equal amounts of care - carfentanyl sounds more like a chemical weapon, and for that reason alone should be heavily regulated. But folks tend to overreact with panic every single time a new drug comes up, and I've watched this excuse ("no longer able to make free choices!") used to justify ratcheting up the drug war every time. This particular claim doesn't pass the obvious sniff test - if fentanyl was so compulsive, heroin addicts would be seeking it out instead of trying to avoid it. Yeah, these powerful new drugs are killing people - and we should lay the blame square where it belongs, with the prohibition of milder alternatives.
- 2bitencryption 9y ago
  Your sniff test isn't passing my sniff test.
- GordonS 9y ago
  If you take a look at forums for drug users, such as Blue Light, you will see most prefer heroin to fentanyl. Apparently the euphoria from fentanyl isn't as great as with other opioids.
  - doikor 9y ago
    Most addicts preferring heroin shouldn't be surprise to anyone. Fentanyl was developed as an alternative to existing opioids that acts faster, goes out of your system faster and has less side effects (with the pain relief being the only wanted effect). The fact that it is very strong (easy to overdose) isn't really that much of an issue in clinical use.
DanBC 9y ago
> This is not like pot. This is not a drug that you can eve use casually What do you think the addiction rate of opioids is? What is it for fentanyl?

stickfigure 9y ago

After you are on these drugs, you are no longer able to make free choices. I don't buy it. I heard exactly this being said about cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine, ecstasy, and yes marijuana in the 80s. Reefer Madness was not a parody movie, and let's not forget that pot is still officially Schedule I in the US. I'm not saying that all drugs require equal amounts of care - carfentanyl sounds more like a chemical weapon, and for that reason alone should be heavily regulated. But folks tend to overreact with panic every single time a new drug comes up, and I've watched this excuse ("no longer able to make free choices!") used to justify ratcheting up the drug war every time. This particular claim doesn't pass the obvious sniff test - if fentanyl was so compulsive, heroin addicts would be seeking it out instead of trying to avoid it. Yeah, these powerful new drugs are killing people - and we should lay the blame square where it belongs, with the prohibition of milder alternatives.

2bitencryption 9y ago
Your sniff test isn't passing my sniff test.
GordonS 9y ago
If you take a look at forums for drug users, such as Blue Light, you will see most prefer heroin to fentanyl. Apparently the euphoria from fentanyl isn't as great as with other opioids.
- doikor 9y ago
  Most addicts preferring heroin shouldn't be surprise to anyone. Fentanyl was developed as an alternative to existing opioids that acts faster, goes out of your system faster and has less side effects (with the pain relief being the only wanted effect). The fact that it is very strong (easy to overdose) isn't really that much of an issue in clinical use.

DanBC 9y ago

> This is not like pot. This is not a drug that you can eve use casually What do you think the addiction rate of opioids is? What is it for fentanyl?