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The problem is it's not really in Apples interest to get app sizes smaller. Larger apps means you have more "need" to upgrade your phone to the latest version

The problem is it's not really in Apples interest to get app sizes smaller. Larger apps means you have more "need" to upgrade your phone to the latest version with more space, power, speed etc.

nerdponx 9y ago
This is usually my thought when I see issues like this. If Apple wanted to fix the problem, they would fix the problem.
- wooter 9y ago
  this incentive analysis is so shallow it doesn't pass first muster. does fitting/selling more apps make Apple more money? are storage and bandwidth expenses? do users value performance? most people here seem to agree more bloat = less users.
  - nerdponx 9y ago
    most people here seem to agree more bloat = less users I haven't seen any data in this thread to back that up. It certainly doesn't apprar true in my experience.
    - wooter 9y ago
      i think the disagreement is on what constitutes "bloat"
s73ver 9y ago
Except they have been working on it, by repackaging apps to strip out unneeded assets. And it is in Apple's interest to have smaller apps, because then people will be able to download more apps. They'll be willing to try more apps, because there will be less of a barrier between seeing the download button and being up and running.
- MBCook 9y ago
  Plus Apple likes shipping lower end/cheaper devices to people who won't buy the high end. When your low end configuration is hard to use because Facebook takes up 29% of the storage... that's a problem. Customers get mad. When they can't update Facebook because it wants more space and the device is full and now the user is locked out from their friends... customers get mad. When updating a handful of apps uses up 70% of their monthly data... users get mad. And ALL of that effects apple's bottom line.
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rz2k 9y ago
While that sounds like a clever trick that Apple could use, they really want to minimize production costs and maximize utility for consumers. Their profit margin comes from a share of that surplus utility. I suppose it can help hide price increases of the next higher configurations, such as when the base configuration of the MacBook Pro decreased from 256GB to 128GB between 2016 and 2017, with the list price for 256GB configurations increasing by a couple hundred dollars. However, Apple has also gone as far as developing an entirely new filesystem to decrease storage use.

The problem is it's not really in Apples interest to get app sizes smaller. Larger apps means you have more "need" to upgrade your phone to the latest version with more space, power, speed etc.

nerdponx 9y ago

This is usually my thought when I see issues like this. If Apple wanted to fix the problem, they would fix the problem.

wooter 9y ago
this incentive analysis is so shallow it doesn't pass first muster. does fitting/selling more apps make Apple more money? are storage and bandwidth expenses? do users value performance? most people here seem to agree more bloat = less users.
- nerdponx 9y ago
  most people here seem to agree more bloat = less users I haven't seen any data in this thread to back that up. It certainly doesn't apprar true in my experience.
  - wooter 9y ago
    i think the disagreement is on what constitutes "bloat"

s73ver 9y ago

Except they have been working on it, by repackaging apps to strip out unneeded assets. And it is in Apple's interest to have smaller apps, because then people will be able to download more apps. They'll be willing to try more apps, because there will be less of a barrier between seeing the download button and being up and running.

MBCook 9y ago
Plus Apple likes shipping lower end/cheaper devices to people who won't buy the high end. When your low end configuration is hard to use because Facebook takes up 29% of the storage... that's a problem. Customers get mad. When they can't update Facebook because it wants more space and the device is full and now the user is locked out from their friends... customers get mad. When updating a handful of apps uses up 70% of their monthly data... users get mad. And ALL of that effects apple's bottom line.
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rz2k 9y ago

While that sounds like a clever trick that Apple could use, they really want to minimize production costs and maximize utility for consumers. Their profit margin comes from a share of that surplus utility. I suppose it can help hide price increases of the next higher configurations, such as when the base configuration of the MacBook Pro decreased from 256GB to 128GB between 2016 and 2017, with the list price for 256GB configurations increasing by a couple hundred dollars. However, Apple has also gone as far as developing an entirely new filesystem to decrease storage use.