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Nutrition. Exercise. Stress management. I think these are mainstream health practices. There are practitioners with other qualifications. Although I've met ph

Nutrition. Exercise. Stress management. I think these are mainstream health practices. There are practitioners with other qualifications. Although I've met physios with some peculiar ideas that subsequently turned out to be have a very high proportion of adverse effects (e.g. spinal adjustments). My message is consistent, I hope: try what you will, but never pretend to expertise, and steer clear of recommending or suggesting anything to anyone, because at that moment one becomes a snake-oil peddler and are risking harm to someone else. Recognise that even medical practitioners are taught not to treat themselves or family because you cannot, cannot be objective about it. I do not express an opinion on your personal journey, except to say that despite not knowing you from Adam it's still gladdening to learn that you are feeling better.

Mz 9y ago
Nutrition. Exercise. Stress management. I think these are mainstream health practices. If you have a very serious medical condition, like cancer, and you talk to a doctor about things like taking vitamins, most of them will pooh-pooh it as if any impact it has is merely a placebo effect. Using nutrition, exercise and stress management as part of your defense in the face of something that doctors don't really know how to treat gets dismissed and attacked and basically lumped in with snake oil. In fact, you are basically doing this yourself with your wild misquotes of people here in service of some agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to comprehend anything being said here, as best I can tell.
- inopinatus 9y ago
  I am not surprised that you dislike that I have rebutted your remarks. Nevertheless, when I quote you, it is practically cut-and-paste. Mz, I think your comments in particular in this thread have been worthy of such strongly worded reprimand because they could lead others to attempt self-treatment and to disregard medical advice. The fact that you've done so by misrepresenting the character, motives, competence and behaviour of practitioners is something I take further umbrage at.
  - Mz 9y ago
    When you misquote me and then wildly twist my meaning, with zero intent whatsoever to actually have any respect for me or understand anything I am saying, yes, you very selectively cut and paste in order to try to make it say whatever meaning you are attempting to force upon my words.
- averagewall 9y ago
  A relative was diagnosed with dementia and the doctor recommended all 3 of these things. I agree they are mainstream. Of course he's not going to say they'll cure it or cancer because there isn't evidence of that.
- nradov 9y ago
  Are there any specific vitamins which have been shown effective in treating cancer or other serious conditions? In general research into vitamin supplements hasn't shown any benefits, at least not for people with working digestive systems who eat proper balanced diets.
tomhoward 9y ago
...except to say that despite not knowing you from Adam it's still gladdening to learn that you are feeling better. Thanks for the constructive comment. I would urge you to examine your own conduct in this thread however, particularly towards Mz. You really do seem to be waging war against a straw man, and expressing fears about risks and dangers that everyone like myself and Mz are well-and-truly aware of and cautious to avoid. I'm sure you are sincere in your belief that you are well-intentioned. But in your quest to protect unwitting victims of snake-oil-touting charlatans, you end up being a bully towards people who have experiences and insights that you don't have, and infantilising people who are mature and educated enough to do their own research and make their own decisions. Like I said, I'm sure your heart is in the right place. But you'd do well to be more considerate toward others' experiences and perspectives, and charitable in your reading of different opinions on issues of such importance.

Mz 9y ago

Nutrition. Exercise. Stress management. I think these are mainstream health practices. If you have a very serious medical condition, like cancer, and you talk to a doctor about things like taking vitamins, most of them will pooh-pooh it as if any impact it has is merely a placebo effect. Using nutrition, exercise and stress management as part of your defense in the face of something that doctors don't really know how to treat gets dismissed and attacked and basically lumped in with snake oil. In fact, you are basically doing this yourself with your wild misquotes of people here in service of some agenda that has nothing whatsoever to do with trying to comprehend anything being said here, as best I can tell.

inopinatus 9y ago
I am not surprised that you dislike that I have rebutted your remarks. Nevertheless, when I quote you, it is practically cut-and-paste. Mz, I think your comments in particular in this thread have been worthy of such strongly worded reprimand because they could lead others to attempt self-treatment and to disregard medical advice. The fact that you've done so by misrepresenting the character, motives, competence and behaviour of practitioners is something I take further umbrage at.
- Mz 9y ago
  When you misquote me and then wildly twist my meaning, with zero intent whatsoever to actually have any respect for me or understand anything I am saying, yes, you very selectively cut and paste in order to try to make it say whatever meaning you are attempting to force upon my words.
averagewall 9y ago
A relative was diagnosed with dementia and the doctor recommended all 3 of these things. I agree they are mainstream. Of course he's not going to say they'll cure it or cancer because there isn't evidence of that.
nradov 9y ago
Are there any specific vitamins which have been shown effective in treating cancer or other serious conditions? In general research into vitamin supplements hasn't shown any benefits, at least not for people with working digestive systems who eat proper balanced diets.

tomhoward 9y ago

...except to say that despite not knowing you from Adam it's still gladdening to learn that you are feeling better. Thanks for the constructive comment. I would urge you to examine your own conduct in this thread however, particularly towards Mz. You really do seem to be waging war against a straw man, and expressing fears about risks and dangers that everyone like myself and Mz are well-and-truly aware of and cautious to avoid. I'm sure you are sincere in your belief that you are well-intentioned. But in your quest to protect unwitting victims of snake-oil-touting charlatans, you end up being a bully towards people who have experiences and insights that you don't have, and infantilising people who are mature and educated enough to do their own research and make their own decisions. Like I said, I'm sure your heart is in the right place. But you'd do well to be more considerate toward others' experiences and perspectives, and charitable in your reading of different opinions on issues of such importance.