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This leads me to believe that if I am renting an apartment, I am SOL.

Ellie_ 9y ago
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cantrevealname 9y ago
> if I am renting an apartment, I am SOL Not at all! If you're renting in a high-rise building, the floors will be concrete below the laminate or hardwood. A good safe will have either 4 holes or 1 center hole in the base to allow you to anchor it to the floor. Use a concrete drill bit to drill a hole in your apartment floor in a discreet area, like in a closet or laundry room. If you can borrow a hammer drill it'll be faster, but even an ordinary drill will work, though slower. Make sure you buy a concrete drill bit. Then attach the safe using concrete screws and anchors. You can use either a self-tapping concrete screw or, better, put the correct size expanding sleeve into the hole first[1]. Even with a single concrete anchor/screw, the safe will be 100 times more difficult to steal. I've seen expensive TL-15 safes ($5000+) with only one center hole in the base, so I assume the manufacturer thought that was sufficient (if properly anchored). Before you place the safe, put down a sheet of plastic or a very thin patch of carpet to protect the laminate or hardwood floor. Cut holes in the plastic sheet or carpet for the concrete screws. When you move out of your rented apartment, fill the holes with putty matching the color of the laminate or hardwood floor. If you make a small effort at patching up, the holes will be invisible. One more piece of advice: The drilling won't take long, but it'll be very loud. If you have a nosy landlord or superintendent, do the drilling when he's not around. A superintendent, for example, is unlikely to work on a Saturday or Sunday. Also, cover the safe with a sheet or blanket, so if someone casually looks in your closet or laundry room, the safe won't be noticed. http://howtospecialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/How-to-install-concrete-anchor-4.jpg http://howtospecialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/How-to...
- reitanqild 9y ago
  Just be very sure there is no cables or pipes where you drill (electrical, central heating, water etc).
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  You're advocating damaging someone's property without their permission. Don't do that.
  - mturmon 9y ago
    Found the landlord!
    - protomyth 9y ago
      Or the person who had their basement apartment flooded.
    - deleted 9y ago
      [deleted]
donavanm 9y ago
As sibling point out all is not lost. In a wood framed structure put lag bolts in to studs or beams. It doesnt have to be perfect. Your primary goal is to prevent a strong man, or someone with straps/handtruck, from literally walking off with the goods. The goal of a safe is to simply delay the attacker until an active response arrives. Edit: in an appartment building check your floor loading. A little jewelry/document safe is probably fine. Big get very heavy very quick on a relatively small surface area.
pjc50 9y ago
You think that people are going to be able to steal a safe from an apartment without anyone noticing?
- Inconel 9y ago
  I have a friend who had a 40+ inch rear projection TV(not a modern LCD/plasma but one of those much larger ones), a couple of very large wood cabinet speakers(probably at least 3.5-4x1x1 feet) and a small mini fridge(still filled with food) all stolen, during daytime hours, from a 20-25 unit multi-story apartment. Anecdotal I know, but I wouldn't assume most people are terribly attentive.
  - pbhjpbhj 9y ago
    Wear a high-vis vest with "removals, inc." on and you can probably do it and get people to hold doors and things for you.
    - Inconel 9y ago
      Funny you say that since it turned out from surveillance footage from another building that the burglars where dressed as movers and loaded all the items into a small moving van that was double parked. Forget about stealing safes from apartments, I wouldn't be shocked if you could rob an actual bank vault by dressing as a construction crew.
      - hackbinary 9y ago
        They did, in London. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/biggest-jewel-heist-in-british-history/amp http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/biggest-jewel-heis...
      - protomyth 9y ago
        University I went to had this happen in the summer. Showed up in coveralls and had a paper for the RA to sign. Cleared out all the furniture and appliances. Told the RA that the new stuff was a bit late but would be there in an hour. They were not caught but I question the target’s value.

my buddy's step-aunt makes $68 /hour on the laptop . She has been without a job for nine months but last month her check was $99350 just working on the laptop for a few hours. check my source ——————– < lllllllllllllllllllllllWWW.joinmate2.Comlllllllllllllllllll >

cantrevealname 9y ago

> if I am renting an apartment, I am SOL Not at all! If you're renting in a high-rise building, the floors will be concrete below the laminate or hardwood. A good safe will have either 4 holes or 1 center hole in the base to allow you to anchor it to the floor. Use a concrete drill bit to drill a hole in your apartment floor in a discreet area, like in a closet or laundry room. If you can borrow a hammer drill it'll be faster, but even an ordinary drill will work, though slower. Make sure you buy a concrete drill bit. Then attach the safe using concrete screws and anchors. You can use either a self-tapping concrete screw or, better, put the correct size expanding sleeve into the hole first[1]. Even with a single concrete anchor/screw, the safe will be 100 times more difficult to steal. I've seen expensive TL-15 safes ($5000+) with only one center hole in the base, so I assume the manufacturer thought that was sufficient (if properly anchored). Before you place the safe, put down a sheet of plastic or a very thin patch of carpet to protect the laminate or hardwood floor. Cut holes in the plastic sheet or carpet for the concrete screws. When you move out of your rented apartment, fill the holes with putty matching the color of the laminate or hardwood floor. If you make a small effort at patching up, the holes will be invisible. One more piece of advice: The drilling won't take long, but it'll be very loud. If you have a nosy landlord or superintendent, do the drilling when he's not around. A superintendent, for example, is unlikely to work on a Saturday or Sunday. Also, cover the safe with a sheet or blanket, so if someone casually looks in your closet or laundry room, the safe won't be noticed. http://howtospecialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/How-to-install-concrete-anchor-4.jpg http://howtospecialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/How-to...

reitanqild 9y ago
Just be very sure there is no cables or pipes where you drill (electrical, central heating, water etc).
toomuchtodo 9y ago
You're advocating damaging someone's property without their permission. Don't do that.
- mturmon 9y ago
  Found the landlord!
  - protomyth 9y ago
    Or the person who had their basement apartment flooded.
  - deleted 9y ago
    [deleted]

donavanm 9y ago

As sibling point out all is not lost. In a wood framed structure put lag bolts in to studs or beams. It doesnt have to be perfect. Your primary goal is to prevent a strong man, or someone with straps/handtruck, from literally walking off with the goods. The goal of a safe is to simply delay the attacker until an active response arrives. Edit: in an appartment building check your floor loading. A little jewelry/document safe is probably fine. Big get very heavy very quick on a relatively small surface area.

pjc50 9y ago

You think that people are going to be able to steal a safe from an apartment without anyone noticing?

Inconel 9y ago
I have a friend who had a 40+ inch rear projection TV(not a modern LCD/plasma but one of those much larger ones), a couple of very large wood cabinet speakers(probably at least 3.5-4x1x1 feet) and a small mini fridge(still filled with food) all stolen, during daytime hours, from a 20-25 unit multi-story apartment. Anecdotal I know, but I wouldn't assume most people are terribly attentive.
- pbhjpbhj 9y ago
  Wear a high-vis vest with "removals, inc." on and you can probably do it and get people to hold doors and things for you.
  - Inconel 9y ago
    Funny you say that since it turned out from surveillance footage from another building that the burglars where dressed as movers and loaded all the items into a small moving van that was double parked. Forget about stealing safes from apartments, I wouldn't be shocked if you could rob an actual bank vault by dressing as a construction crew.
    - hackbinary 9y ago
      They did, in London. http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/biggest-jewel-heist-in-british-history/amp http://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2016/03/biggest-jewel-heis...
    - protomyth 9y ago
      University I went to had this happen in the summer. Showed up in coveralls and had a paper for the RA to sign. Cleared out all the furniture and appliances. Told the RA that the new stuff was a bit late but would be there in an hour. They were not caught but I question the target’s value.